Be Excellent To Each Other

What's really going to boil your piss is that they means tested child benefit, means tested DLA, but didn't means test Childs DLA.

Leukaemia gets you children's DLA...

True, but he is letting him, he is letting paxman interrupt him. Cameron was better at keeping going and shutting his questions down.

I hope you've spent it all on decent gin.

Balls, troops. Paxo is steamrollering Ed more than he did to Cameron. His questioning is also far more aggressive and cunty.

I'm ordering from a different section of my wine merchants' website these days.

Fucking brilliant answer just there - "are you voting for what I'm trying to do, or what papers say about my personality"

I don't disagree. I think paxman would have been the same with Cameron if he could, but his shoulders are too slopey and he's too good at dancing around a point. Ed doesn't have that "skill"

Oh that was a totally appalling sign off. Not knowing microphone was on (which will be said) my arse.

As in- Cameron can dodge but there are ways of phrasing the assault. You can smear Cameron with his friends and milliband with his brother, but paxman put them completely differently. And he knew it

"are you alright" Wtf?

That was mega cunty.



No no no no, that wasn't Cameron displaying skill, that was Paxo winding his neck in with Cameron but not with Ed.

I reckon Ed came out better overall across the hour. I doubt the papers will see it the same way.

As I said, paxman will claim he thought 'mic off'

Utter. Cunt.

I have more twitter followers than the labour ppc for Shipley. I don't think he'll be renting the majority philip Davies enjoys

So, to summarise. Cameron was asked ok stuff and allowed to get away with not answering, and milliband was asked utter shit and not allowed to answer.

I'd put it as a draw,

Yes

No, milliband gave good answers given how shitey the questions were.

MAIN MESSAGES FROM THE EVENING ACCORDING TO BURLEY - ED AND DAVID STILL HEALING THEIR RELATIONSHIP

What the fucking fuck, jesus.

Fuck me, I don't even like Milliband.

Not having seen it all but I think Ed came across well despite massively stupid and hostile questions and environment.

BBC say the microphones"picked up" the alright line.

The only good answers milliband gave were when he was admitting they were wrong, which is admirable, but not a good impression to give out...

Agree +1



No, not true.

Fuck it, I'm voting green.

I watched the whole thing, I call it like I see it.

Thought Milliband really did well towards the end. Absolutely answered Paxman's made up attempts at anecdotes and newspapers. Then smashed it on Syria and standing up to people.

And getting him back with,
"Are you okay?"
"Yeah, are you?"

Surprised that something on C4 was so right wing though (I know Sky too, but...)

@troops I watched the whole thing too, and you're wrong.

Ooooh, and Newsnight agrees with me.

Also, I am still fucking fuming at Cameron being low enough to answer the NHS question by saying that everything in it is now perfect and he wouldn't ever do anything nasty as his son is dead.

Fucking shameless.

Pretty much word for word what I said. Her question was the best one of the night and he didn't sodding answer it, and just tugged on heartstrings cos he had a disabled kid. The cunt.

Yes. He is a man with title and confidence and did well. Very well.

I thought it was a sky production that C4 are allowed to show, in effect.

Caroline Flint vs Liz Truss - Flinty wins.

Guardian poll has it at 54% Cameron, 46% milliband. If that's on the guardian of all places, that's not good for labour at all...

Read the comments on the Mail and most of them seem to be lefties.

Poll of Tumbledown Mansions has it as 100% Millibead.

That depends entirely on what kind of vote it is.

"An instant Guardian/ICM poll found that David Cameron had narrowly “won” the contest with 54% saying that the PM came out on top once the don’t knows were excluded, compared with just 46% who felt that Miliband had the edge.

The sample of viewers, who were weighted to bring them in line with the broader population, were asked to put aside their party preference and concentrate only on what they heard during the programme, 46% felt that Cameron had the best arguments, as against 44% who said the same of Miliband. Cameron was also judged slightly more convincing – by 48% to 43% – and to have the more appealing personality, by 46% to 42%. He chalked up a clearer win on “actually answering the questions asked”, by 44% to 37%.

There was better news for Miliband when it comes to the crucial question of shifting votes: 56% of the sub-sample who said they might change their mind will now plump for Labour, as against just 30% for the Conservatives.

David Cameron retains his lead as best prime minister in this survey - but by a smaller margin than in many past polls – he is preferred on this count by 48% as against just 40% for Miliband.

ICM interviewed 3,650 adults aged 18+ online on 24-26th March. All agreed to watch the Cameron vs Miliband Live: the Battle for Number 10, and to complete a second interview immediately after it finished, which 1,123 did in the first few minutes. The data on both waves were weighted to the profile of all GB adults, including to recall of 2010 General Election voting. In essence, the post-wave data is ICM’s best guess on what a representative sample of the voting population would say had they all watched the programme."

PFFFFFFFFFF

In what world did he answer the questions more clearly? Surely even the bluest Tory knows he was steering them to things he prefers to talk about!

Democracy in action, dude.

in short, our only hope is open insurrection.

Twitter had miliband well ahead

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32071377


I imagine that was a lot of sympathy for the unfair mauling he was getting.

The BBC analysis afterwards was amusing.
Paraphrasing : "the icm poll we have shows Cameron to be in the lead, but we think miliband won as he was smiling in the spin room afterwards"

LOL. Right.

yes, that amused me too

Well, you can ask

Good tough questions from Paxman to Dave, and unlike the weekly PMQs he had to answer instead of either changing the subject or asking a question back.


I'd have liked Paxman to say "Why wont you do a proper debate with the guy in the next room - are you a coward?"

Otherwise the night went pretty much as expected.

Poll of Polls puts it 33% Labour 33% Conservative still, its looking just as much a hung parliament as in 2010. I dont expect it to change much over the next 6 weeks.

If youre doing ok and havent been too hard hit by austerity with a relatively secure employer or are retired with a pension you'll vote Tory, if youve been hit by benefit cuts, unemployment, job insecurity, pay reductions or been in hospital lately you'll probably vote for another party.

No I fucking won't.

More of a hung parliament, as apart from Tory/Labour there are no two parties who can even get a majority in coalition.

Also, on the last part, I am okay and not hit by austerity, but I wouldn't vote Tory as I don't think the people already doing okay need more help!

Indeed. If you are doing ok, you can afford to vote for a more socialist party.

Not sure if anyone (even me) has linked to this previously

http://fullfact.org/

Ok change that to:

"You may be more inclined to vote Tory".

I'll vote for Labour. Even though the bloke is terrible, he's less terrible than the MP, who I am fully expecting to move to UKIP straight after the election.