Highway code says "never ride more than two abreast" but single file on busy roads.

Yup. So, if you have vehicles waiting patiently to pass you, that's a "busy road".

Plus you know, common sense, common courtesy.

Don't forget the proletariat are lesser beings though, Malc - almost subhuman. They're deserving of pity, but not courtesy.

Also, I don't buy this "'debris' in cycle lanes so they can't be used" nonsense, not even remotely; I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.

Most cycle lanes are absolute shite. I would much rather cycle on the road than in the cycle lanes. As already mentioned, they are in crap places, you have to give way every junction, they are full or crap (if you have a car crash what do they do with the broken glass etc, oh yeah brush it to the side of the road into the bike lane, or the effect of the 'racing line' being cleaned as you go, or cars decide they want to park at the side of the road) and pot holes too.

Also a cyclists is entitled to cycle in the middle of the road without pulling over to the side. If a cyclist drives at the side of the road they are doing the other road users a favour. Now, when I used to cycle I was fairly confident in my abilities, and was very aware of what was behind me and so on. So *I* would let people go past if there was an opportunity to, but the important thing is that you don't HAVE to do that. You are not being a bad cyclist if you don't. It's no worse then obeying the priority over oncoming traffic sign, even if you have seen a car coming the other way stuck there for several minutes. Or letting someone turn right when you're coming the other way.

Malc

I don't "drive right up to cyclists", but yes, damn right I use my horn if they ride two abreast and refuse to get out of the way when vehicles are waiting behind them.

I sometimes hurl verbal abuse at them as well. Twats.

I'd love to see some copper's face if some cyclist was smack bang in the middle of a single lane busy A-road, holding traffic up for miles, saying "I didn't feel like moving over to 'do them a favour'". Ever heard of the cycling proficiency test? Highway Code? Common road sense?

Utterly ridiculous, the perversely/willfully stupid stuff that gets said around here as if somehow fact and/or reasonable. 'Doing them a favour'... LOL.

I'd take something of a pragmatic view: if you're going to be cycling, don't increase the risks by then proceeding to piss off people that can potentially accidentally kill you, and some that deliberately will.

After all, you can't change them, you can change yourself.

I think every law and handbook should start with the following rule.

"Rule 1 : Don't be a dick."

Just because something is legal, doesn't make it automatically right in every situation. Cyclists have every right to slow people up, but that doesn't mean they should. Like Mr Dave, if I was holding everyone up then I would get out the way as often as practically possible, regardless of my legal right to carry on, because it is a nice thing to do.

The cyclists main priority is their safety. if they can't move over because of the state of the road, they don't have too.

How many of us have hit a pothole in a car? It is devastating on a bike.

I agree, but if you are moving up a hill, you really don't want to stop, it is hard to get going..

No, no, no! Cyclists should take fifty times longer to get anywhere, because they are second-class citizens and don't even pay road tax!

Cyclists should take fifty times longer to get anywhere, because they are second-class citizens and don't even pay road tax!

The site my letting agent provide to give landlords access to general info about the let and a log of communications between the agent and the tenant just freaked out on me* and revealed the tenant's email address;

Somebody is breaking Rule 1...

Somebody is breaking Rule 1...

They got drunk last night and didn't turn up to work / other commitments today?

A fittie! That's a thing, right?

Also, I don't buy this "'debris' in cycle lanes so they can't be used" nonsense, not even remotely; I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.

you really believe that?

so basically don't ride your bike any where as you could piss someone off and they could kill you!! FFS

If it I not safe to over take don't over take. You can make the time back later.

If it I not safe to over take don't over take. You can make the time back later.

in case they're an impatient, psychotic arsehole.

If it I not safe to over take don't over take. You can make the time back later.

I presume people are just trolling Dave at this point?

I thought I was trolling you? Whose turn is it today? I didn't get the weekly memo.

Hard to tell on this forum.


Great, I'm sure the twenty cars behind you will be fine with that.

Aside: years ago (like, 1990) my mate had some tyres for his mountain bike that were solid, so they couldn't get punctures. Why aren't they on all bikes now?

Hard to tell on this forum.


Great, I'm sure the twenty cars behind you will be fine with that.

Aside: years ago (like, 1990) my mate had some tyres for his mountain bike that were solid, so they couldn't get punctures. Why aren't they on all bikes now?

I presume people are just trolling Dave at this point?

No when Mr dave is saying, don't ride to get yourself killed, seems a bit extreme..

Hard to tell on this forum.


Great, I'm sure the twenty cars behind you will be fine with that.

Aside: years ago (like, 1990) my mate had some tyres for his mountain bike that were solid, so they couldn't get punctures. Why aren't they on all bikes now?

No, what he's saying is don't deliberately ride three abreast so you can have a natter, knowing you're holding up a queue of cars. It's not that difficult to translate.

Next you'll be saying people shouldn't jump off train bridges because it means you'll have to change at Birmingham instead of getting a direct train and will add 34 mins onto your commute.

Aside: years ago (like, 1990) my mate had some tyres for his mountain bike that were solid, so they couldn't get punctures. Why aren't they on all bikes now?

Judging by the responses of some car drivers, it kinda sounds like the attitudes of some drivers need a radical change but, of course, they never will because, y'know, I drive a Brum Brum neeeeeeoooooooow, the roads are built just for cars, waaah, waaaah etc.