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zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

flis wrote:

What do I need to do to make it work...? Except set fire to everything and start all over again? My knowledge of setting up shit like this is limited to clicking "Next" when the wizard tells me to.

Something has happened which has reset your routers settings back to factory default.

You should have a bit of paper (or possibly email) somewhere from your ISP about setting up a router for the first time - it might need passwords and usernames to connect - thats what you need now.

If you cant find it then call (since the place you are has an ISP monopoly I assume that Hearthy may also be able to give you some advice about dealing with them)

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

You shouldn't actually have to change anything per se to connect here, but if the router's gone back to it's original settings then it'll have reverted to the default network name and password. As zaphod79 has said you should have that info either separately or, very often these days, stuck to the bottom of the router itself. The password you need should be called WPA Key or something similar.

If you're not seeing that default network name available to connect to then it would imply the router has lost even the default ISP settings. If that's the case just phone them up and tell them that because it's not worth buggering about with it when their own settings have been lost from it.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2014 14:06

I am looking at post counts. Zardoz has finally dropped behind Craster, and TheVision is a new member of the 10k club.

Slightly Green · **Joined:** 26th Aug, 2010 **Posts:** 2069

Grim... wrote:

and TheVision is a new member of the 10k club.

Doesn't that mean he is entitled to one free 'Cumshot'?

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

That's pretty much automatic when you walk in the door of the mod forum.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38464

I'm shocked to see that I'm 6th. And still haven't posted anything worth reading

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Grim... you should abuse your powers to send everyone an email address reminding them about this place and saying hi we love you.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22270

Yeah, so my filling had actually made my toothache worse. Guess it's root canal next then... Joy.

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2014 17:04

Mr Russell wrote:

Grim... you should abuse your powers to send everyone an email address reminding them about this place and saying hi we love you.

Send them mine. I hardly get any emails these days so it would be nice to hear from some people.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2014 17:14

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2014 21:15

"A wedding, in London? That means the day after it can be the Ticket to Ride World Championships. In Greenwich! In a pub!"

26th Jan, people. Organise.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2014 21:19

MaliA wrote:

"A wedding, in London? That means the day after it can be the Ticket to Ride World Championships. In Greenwich! In a pub!"

26th Jan, people. Organise.

Yes it most definitely fucking can be!

In!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2014 21:20

That's a Monday, BTW. Did you mean that day?

If so, I will take the day off

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2014 21:27

Curiosity wrote:

That's a Monday, BTW. Did you mean that day?

If so, I will take the day off

Sacking secretary, the Sunday is 25th. So yeah 25th.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2014 22:00

MaliA wrote:

Curiosity wrote:

That's a Monday, BTW. Did you mean that day?

If so, I will take the day off

Sacking secretary, the Sunday is 25th. So yeah 25th.

Might take the 26th off anyway

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2014 22:38

I will sort out a later train home. Will check good beer guide for a pub. I think we will stay at the ibis in Greenwich. Shitpants will be up here so super fun party times and drunk train home!

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

MaliA wrote:

I will sort out a later train home. Will check good beer guide for a pub. I think we will stay at the ibis in Greenwich. Shitpants will be up here so super fun party times and drunk train home!

Errr, I really don't think that is necessary.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

I don't think Greenwich has any pubs.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:41

This place looks good: http://www.oldbrewerygreenwich.com/

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

It's all right. The beer is a bit tasteless, fizzy CO2 beer rather than ale.
It is mostly a restaurant with a small bar attached, not the sort of place you would spend an afternoon playing games at all. (Unless it has changed loads!)

Kern · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:00

MaliA wrote:

"A wedding, in London? That means the day after it can be the Ticket to Ride World Championships. In Greenwich! In a pub!"

Sounds great. In!

Y'all should come to Oxford one weekend and try out the Board Game Café too.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:09

There are loads of potential pubs in Greenwich to play in. The Union, The Trafalgar, The Cutty Sark, etc

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

MaliA wrote:

"A wedding, in London? That means the day after it can be the Ticket to Ride World Championships. In Greenwich! In a pub!"

26th Jan, people. Organise.

in.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:21

Bobbyaro wrote:

It's all right. The beer is a bit tasteless, fizzy CO2 beer rather than ale.

No idea about Meantime as I've not tried theirs, but all the best beers are fizzy CO2 beers these days. Real ale has gone very stale for me.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Real ale is fucking horrible. The entire time I'm drinking it the only thing going through my head is, "Man, this would be genuinely tasty if only it was colder and fizzier."

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Eugh. If you put something fizzy down in front of me it had better be made from a blend of fermented grapes grown in North-Central France.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:33

Bamba wrote:

Real ale is fucking horrible. The entire time I'm drinking it the only thing going through my head is, "Man, this would be genuinely tasty if only it was colder and fizzier."

I used to love it, but craft beer has really opened my tastebuds up to what beer can really taste like. A lot of ale is just brown to me now.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22270

Euromillions rollover tonight. £150m, that should help with the house deposit.

I've done my usual and put the last £10 I won on it, back on 5 lines. I expect i'll win another tenner and do the same the next time it gets up to ludicrous levels!

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:16

The lottery is very much like GoT. The only way to win is not to play.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

No, no it really isn't.

Also, you should climb out of your hipster ass and try some beer that doesn't have a pretentious label.

GazChap · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:46

Trooper wrote:

I've done my usual and put the last £10 I won on it, back on 5 lines. I expect i'll win another tenner and do the same the next time it gets up to ludicrous levels!

I did my usual last Friday, and put on two lines through their website - one lucky dip, the other numbers selected manually.

You don't get to see your lucky dip numbers until you've actually put the ticket on.

6 of the 7 lucky dip numbers were the same as the numbers I selected manually.

:facepalm:

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22270

Doh, that's your luck all used up then, no chance you will win now.

That's how probability works, isn't it?

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

GazChap wrote:

Trooper wrote:

I've done my usual and put the last £10 I won on it, back on 5 lines. I expect i'll win another tenner and do the same the next time it gets up to ludicrous levels!

I did my usual last Friday, and put on two lines through their website - one lucky dip, the other numbers selected manually.

You don't get to see your lucky dip numbers until you've actually put the ticket on.

6 of the 7 lucky dip numbers were the same as the numbers I selected manually.

:facepalm:

Really, you can't see in advance? They used to allow you to reject it if you didn't like the numbers.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:07

Bobbyaro wrote:

You should climb out of your hipster ass and try some beer that doesn't have a pretentious label.

I did, for years. Used to love it. Not anymore. It's bland and boring. Pains me to say so because CAMRA did very good work originally, but there we are. Here's why:

http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article/cra ... v-real-ale

Quote:

The term ‘Real Ale’ and its definition no longer mean anything. CAMRA have lost sight of the beer industry and continue to impose 1970’s arbitrary distinctions which no longer apply. According to this part on their website http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=180630 keg beer is:

· Chilled, filtered (to remove all yeast) and pasteurized thus ‘killing off’ the product

· Has the natural CO2 removed then is force carbonated

· Served cold to disguise lack of taste

However, with BrewDog, Thornbridge and Lovibonds kegs to name just a few, this simply is not the case. It is also completely untrue for the US craft brewing industry where craft keg is leading the revolution.

Production of craft beer has moved so much since the 1970s. Our beers are fermented under pressure so the CO2 in the final beer occurs naturally from the initial fermentation. The beer is then filtered very lightly (to around 6 Microns which leaves yeast in the beer) and we then package (without any pasteurization) before shipping.

Does this make it real ale? Probably, but who really knows anymore. And who actually cares? The fact is that beer no longer must be either bottle/cask conditioned or filtered & pasteurized. A new way has emerged with the craft brewing wave that transcends these out-dated conventions.

Kern · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:08

When I was last in the US I developed a strange fascination with Pabst Blue Ribbon.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

American Nervoso wrote:

keg beer is:

· filtered (to remove all yeast)

Anyone who brews wheat beer would like a word about this.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:16

Bamba wrote:

American Nervoso wrote:

keg beer is:

· filtered (to remove all yeast)

Anyone who brews wheat beer would like a word about this.

Well yes, that's what CAMRA are saying. Wheat beer isn't 'real ale'. Real ale doesn't really mean anything anymore. CAMRA have become the establishment that they originally were created to rail against.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

Oh, there is no doubting CMARA are up their own asses, but to say that beers like Citra, Hophead and many many others are lacking in flavour is just silly.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:38

Bobbyaro wrote:

Oh, there is no doubting CMARA are up their own asses, but to say that beers like Citra, Hophead and many many others are lacking in flavour is just silly.

Citra is an American pale ale made by a small brewery - a craft beer. Same with Hophead. Thanks for proving my point Bobby.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

Citra won best beer at the GBBF, run by CAMRA. It is non-gassy and rather nice. You dismissed it because it is non-gassy; not by the size of the brewery.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:52

Bobbyaro wrote:

Citra won best beer at the GBBF, run by CAMRA. It is non-gassy and rather nice. You dismissed it because it is non-gassy; not by the size of the brewery.

But Myp said CAMRA hate it and it is a fizzy CO2 beer!

OH NOES!

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:52

Bobbyaro wrote:

Citra won best beer at the GBBF, run by CAMRA. It is non-gassy and rather nice. You dismissed it because it is non-gassy; not by the size of the brewery.

I am generalising, obviously. There is still some excellent stuff being made in casks. Just the real ale business as a whole (with ginormobreweries such as Greene King) is pretty stagnant and boring these days.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:53

Curiosity wrote:

But Myp said CAMRA hate it and it is a fizzy CO2 beer!

Err, I didn't say that at all. I said the best beers around are fizzy CO2 beers. Not that all CO2 beers are better than cask, because that would be crazy as it includes Carling.

Real ale can be craft beer, but not all craft beer can be real ale as per CAMRA's antiquated terminology.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:56

Bobby: we should go to Buxton brewery at some point for a tasting session - would be fun!

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:08

Bobbyaro wrote:

Citra won best beer at the GBBF, run by CAMRA.

And also, the fact that the GBBF is run by CAMRA means that some of the greatest beers being brewed in this country right now are not allowed to enter. It's pretty much a shambles at this point.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

American Nervoso wrote:

Bobbyaro wrote:

Citra won best beer at the GBBF, run by CAMRA. It is non-gassy and rather nice. You dismissed it because it is non-gassy; not by the size of the brewery.

I am generalising, obviously. There is still some excellent stuff being made in casks. Just the real ale business as a whole (with ginormobreweries such as Greene King) is pretty stagnant and boring these days.

All ginormo breweries are boring in general, because they are aiming at a mass market, that doesn't mean boring is nasty. A good pint of London Pride still hits the spot, but I would generlly prefer a smaller brewery.
But to take you up on a point, just because it is a small brewery does not mean it is not real ale. Not that I really care about the categorisation, I am just getting a bit bored with the whole hipster aspect of "craft" beer. There is now an apparent back lash against small breweries becasue they try and follow CAMRA rules and not "go it alone" and produce "craft" beer. Ludicrous.

(I completely agree re CAMRA, btw, I just don't think hitting the breweries is the way to go against it).

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:13

American Nervoso wrote:

Bobby: we should go to Buxton brewery at some point for a tasting session - would be fun!

Time it when I am visiting the in laws please

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:14

Bobbyaro wrote:

I just don't think hitting the breweries is the way to go against it.

Which I wasn't doing at any point. Apologies if it came across that way.

Of course smaller breweries can make real ale. Real ale can also be craft beer (as in it is made in small batches using high-quality ingredients for a beer with excellent flavour). But CAMRA won't allow certain craft beers to be classified as real ale because of ancient regulations that they refuse to budge on.

I love small breweries whether they use cask or keg. It's the huge breweries making 3 different types of brown, flavourless beer at 4% that I just can't abide anymore. Beer can be real ale without any kind of quality control of the flavour, that is the main problem.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:17

MaliA wrote:

American Nervoso wrote:

Bobby: we should go to Buxton brewery at some point for a tasting session - would be fun!

Time it when I am visiting the in laws please

Would be easier if you set a date, then I'll come up. Make sure W comes too.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

American Nervoso wrote:

Beer can be real ale without any kind of quality control of the flavour, that is the main problem.

Beer can of course also be craft beer without any kind of quality control of the flavour.

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