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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 14:15 
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How's your telly?

Fucking Massive.

However I now been made to realise that I must be impoverished, so the happiness effect of a new television is more than offset by my realisation that I'm part of the downtrodden underclass.

Nice strawman.

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I believe that you'll find that the strawmen were:

1) Making an assumption that people were laughing at people because they are poor, and not acting like twats
2) Assuming that the people rushing into shops must be poor.
3) Combining the two into a rushed and lazy political narrative that in itself is actually offensive to the putative poor people by highlighting that the people acting like twats must be poor.

That's a pretty fair assessment of what happened. I apologise for my part of it as long as Mark does too.

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I sent pregnant MrsA to get me a telly from Asda last year. She got the security guard to carry the telly from the stack to the checkout ("that one, please") then to the car ("over there, please"). She also bought a gnome, although it was unclear how that got to the car. Stupid gnome.

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I sent pregnant MrsA to get me a telly from Asda last year. She got the security guard to carry the telly from the stack to the checkout ("that one, please") then to the car ("over there, please"). She also bought a gnome, although it was unclear how that got to the car. Stupid gnome.

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American Nervoso wrote:
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How's your telly?

Fucking Massive.

However I now been made to realise that I must be impoverished, so the happiness effect of a new television is more than offset by my realisation that I'm part of the downtrodden underclass.

Nice strawman.

This game is fun. :D

I believe that you'll find that the strawmen were:

1) Making an assumption that people were laughing at people because they are poor, and not acting like twats
2) Assuming that the people rushing into shops must be poor.
3) Combining the two into a rushed and lazy political narrative that in itself is actually offensive to the putative poor people by highlighting that the people acting like twats must be poor.

That's a pretty fair assessment of what happened. I apologise for my part of it as long as Mark does too.

I'd agree up to a point. Not on here but there has been quite a bit of exactly what I was talking about. As for profiling I'm probably guilty of thinking of the Asda where we do the weekly shop in which case I'd be pretty confident in my assessment. I don't know about that North London branch or perhaps what we were seeing there in the clip was actually a coachful of cardiologists who stopped off at Asda on the way back from their symposium for some bargain flatscreens, I don't know.


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How's your telly?

Fucking Massive.

However I now been made to realise that I must be impoverished, so the happiness effect of a new television is more than offset by my realisation that I'm part of the downtrodden underclass.

Nice strawman.

This game is fun. :D

I believe that you'll find that the strawmen were:

1) Making an assumption that people were laughing at people because they are poor, and not acting like twats
2) Assuming that the people rushing into shops must be poor.
3) Combining the two into a rushed and lazy political narrative that in itself is actually offensive to the putative poor people by highlighting that the people acting like twats must be poor.

That's a pretty fair assessment of what happened. I apologise for my part of it as long as Mark does too.

I'd agree up to a point. Not on here but there has been quite a bit of exactly what I was talking about. As for profiling I'm probably guilty of thinking of the Asda where we do the weekly shop in which case I'd be pretty confident in my assessment. I don't know about that North London branch or perhaps what we were seeing there in the clip was actually a coachful of cardiologists who stopped off at Asda on the way back from their symposium for some bargain flatscreens, I don't know.


That happens to be the Asda up the road from where I used to live. To be honest I knew it would be before I clicked the link, because it's next to a really rough estate (Chalkhill) and very close to St Raphael's, and in both live some of the poorest people in the country, in an area where the cost of living is really high.

Any time there's a story like this they send the news crews there because they bet that this will be the way people react. It's not good, it makes me feel miserable, both the way the media target the area and that the people act this way.

It makes me feel sad that this is the profile of the area to the fact that the media go there in the expectation that they will get these shots here. Is it judgemental, or experience? One of those two estates is where my family are from. I lived on one for a bit. My mother, and my two lovely bright intelligent brothers (I know some of you have met Peter at the Christmas quiz) all still live there. It's a very poor area. Overcrowded, poor quality of life, high unemployment, drink and drugs problem. Material possessions seem very important to a lot of people there. The Ikea sale in Wembley often gets similar news crew attention any time they hold a big sale with one of those media grabbing discounts that sees people fall and push over each other to grab things for a discount.

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Why do theatres have a booking charge?

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Why do theatres have a booking charge?

To make more money


Takes the piss does that. Taking money from the state then charging a booking fee. Cut subsidies to them unless booking fees are removed.

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And as it's subsidised by taxpayers, only people in work should be allowed to go to the theatre.

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And as it's subsidised by taxpayers, only people in work should be allowed to go to the theatre.


The 1.75 booking fee per transaction in one theatre near me would only bring in 700k a year if it were full every night of the year by individuals. It receives 2 million a year arts council funding.

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American Nervoso wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
American Nervoso wrote:
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How's your telly?

Fucking Massive.

However I now been made to realise that I must be impoverished, so the happiness effect of a new television is more than offset by my realisation that I'm part of the downtrodden underclass.

Nice strawman.

This game is fun. :D

I believe that you'll find that the strawmen were:

1) Making an assumption that people were laughing at people because they are poor, and not acting like twats
2) Assuming that the people rushing into shops must be poor.
3) Combining the two into a rushed and lazy political narrative that in itself is actually offensive to the putative poor people by highlighting that the people acting like twats must be poor.

That's a pretty fair assessment of what happened. I apologise for my part of it as long as Mark does too.


From local paper:

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Among them was a family-of-four from Woodside who had headed down early to Forster Square Retail Park with dreams of a big telly for the children's room, only to go home empty-handed.Meanwhile, Sharon Brockhill, 52, from Lower Grange, had left home at 6.30am still wearing her leopard-print onesie in search of a 40-ins tv for £139 - but another shopper snapped it up first.

"I was literally one inch away from it - unbelievable, I was so close." she said - undeterred she said she was planning to have another go today.

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So I was picking up the Grimlet's Hudl from the Tesco Direct counter, and the chap in front of me had bagged a 50" TV on Black Friday, and had come to pick it up.

Unfortunately, what he actually bought was a stand for a 50" TV. He took a look at the webpage again, and realised his mistake.

Interestingly, he still took it.

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I was playing a game on the PS4 earlier and after someone with a rubbish name was SOUNDLY DEFEATED they decided for reasons that I don't know or maybe i use a girl's name to send me a message saying "Blowjob? ". So I reported them because of ethics in games journalism and now they probably are SOUNDLY DEFEATED once again.

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MrsA and I took Focaccia to the new bar earlier. It was pretty good, with four cask ales and three keg ales and a selection of bottles. A man cane in and asked for a lager. "We don't sell lager" said the owner "only ales". No apologies for it at all. I would probably go again and take Britishnervoso

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MrsA and I took Focaccia to the new bar earlier. It was pretty good, with four cask ales and three keg ales and a selection of bottles. A man cane in and asked for a lager. "We don't sell lager" said the owner "only ales". No apologies for it at all. I would probably go again and take Britishnervoso

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Probably cant find a pic and even less likely to be able to insert it into this forum.


But that pic reminds me of "The Real Ale Twats" I buy the Viz annual religiously every October :)

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I read the Viz every month too. It's the only magazine I still subscribe to and I love it.


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Inaccurate, as I don't really drink much real ale anymore.

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You really have gradually turned into Sheldon Cooper, haven't you?

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You really have gradually turned into Sheldon Cooper, haven't you?


But without the redeeming features.

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This review on Eurogamer prompted me to watch Atari: Game Over, you know, that film about excavating the E.T. landfill.

It's free, and a great watch. In fact, I would call it unmissable for anyone in possession of even a tinge of nostalgia over video games or interest in their history, if only because it's really very well put together. For someone who got into programming because of video games of the 1980s, the story of the obviously brilliant Howard Scott Warshaw (programmer of E.T.), and how working at Atari and getting assigned this task affected his life was surprisingly moving.

(And, reviewing the Eurogamer review, Dan Whitehead is a complete cock - as usual).


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This review on Eurogamer prompted me to watch Atari: Game Over, you know, that film about excavating the E.T. landfill.

It's free, and a great watch. In fact, I would call it unmissable for anyone in possession of even a tinge of nostalgia over video games or interest in their history, if only because it's really very well put together. For someone who got into programming because of video games of the 1980s, the story of the obviously brilliant Howard Scott Warshaw (programmer of E.T.), and how working at Atari and getting assigned this task affected his life, was surprisingly moving.

(And, reviewing the Eurogamer review, Dan Whitehead is a complete cock - as usual).


I've had this on a tab on my home pc for a while now, meaning to go back and watch it, but I totally forgot! :) thanks for the reminder.

(I left the tab open due to the million hoops I needed to go through to get access to it! Trying to watch it on an OSX machine is a little annoying ;))


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Trying to watch it on an OSX machine is a little annoying ;))


I ended up watching it in bootcamp since the mac side would never work for me (and the 360 just got stuck in an update loop) - I enjoyed it - i do think Chinny should watch it since there is an Amstrad (464) in there at around the 10 minute mark :-)


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Absolute injustice (worse than Ferguson) that Mel, Foggy, Jimmy and Tinch are the only four up for eviction. As much as I'm getting annoyed a bit by Sykes (which is irritating, as i used to fancy her rotten), Kendra needs to fuck off.

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Wasn't it though? Tinch and Sykesy were machines, jimmy was hilarious, and Foggy was just ace. I love Foggy.

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Jimmy gone! Surprise. Was that cos of the "bantz"with the prepubescent girls' favourite, Jake? Or because he was a massive pussy?

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Jimmy may be funny, but he is also a wuss and a bully, he will be first out.

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He was mean to the prepubescent girls' favourite, Jake, with his mean "bantz".

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The Bantz with jake was seen by virtually everyone in the camp and 75% of people in a poll afterwards as bullying.

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Mind you, there's no way he'd have been voted out if he'd been up against Nadia, Edwina, Kendra etc.

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True, he was up against a rapper with a large fan base in the voting age bracket, and two people who have shown themselves to be machines in the trials. He had no chance, as its a vote to save, not a vote to evict.


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Is the Irish lass on Get Me Out of Here Now ever on anything else at all?

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Nope, I've only ever seen her on that. Her, rob and joe are amusing together though.


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I wasn't really including Joe and Rob in what I was thinking about, to be frank.

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Apparently Jimmy is 36! I'd have put him in his early 40s at least.


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I'm Jimmy's age on Thursday! Jesus, I've aged well.

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