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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:20 ] |
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Jeremy Corbyn Swimsuit Calendar. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:20 ] |
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Might be announcement that Wenger has signed a new contract |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:25 ] |
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She's going to eat a live kitten, just to prove she can do that and still poll better than Corbyn. |
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| Author: | markg [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:40 ] |
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It'll be an early election. Now more than ever the interests of the Tory party must come before all other considerations. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:42 ] |
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I hope it is reintroduction of conscription. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:44 ] |
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All four-lane motorways to become autobahns. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:45 ] |
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Table flip and flounce |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:45 ] |
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I wouldn't put it past this government to call an election publicly only to be told they can't, then go to court over it. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:46 ] |
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Enforced dissolution of the labour party on the grounds that they're as useful as a Hedgehog fur wanking glove. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:46 ] |
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Blues Brothers is a musical |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:48 ] |
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She'll announce that she's not sure about the look of that new chap on Bake Off |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:53 ] |
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Way to Amarillo discovered |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:55 ] |
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Curiosity wrote: Blues Brother is a musical
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:56 ] |
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Accurate amounts for how much wood a woodchuck would chuck. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:59 ] |
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She's going to flip a water bottle. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:01 ] |
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She's resigning on the basis that the job is shit, stressful and underpaid. And that her colleagues are a bunch of knob jockeys. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:02 ] |
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Has anyone said that she's got the release date for Half Life 3? It seems like the kind of thing that would be mentioned here normally. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:08 ] |
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She's banning photos of Julia Bradbury. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:08 ] |
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General Election on the 8th June, according to the BBC. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:12 ] |
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Grim... wrote: General Election on the 8th June, according to the BBC. Hooo boy. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:14 ] |
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Yep. After continually saying she wouldn't. Ultimately, the polls got too tempting for her to refuse. Whatever she says about stability and all that bullshit, this is move dictated purely on the desire for a larger Tory majority, so she can push through things without a care in the world. I would laugh if Corbyn did a u-turn and decided not to back the decision. Funnily, a larger Tory majority might see May drift away from the far right fringes to which she currently panders. If she has the votes to compromise on some Brexit stuff and can survive a hardline rebellion from the arch-sceptics, she might be more willing to do so. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:15 ] |
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And of course, a victory will be read as an endorsement of her extreme approach to Brexit. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:15 ] |
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Kern wrote: And of course, the victory will be read as an endorsement of her extreme approach to Brexit. Fixed |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:16 ] |
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How many UKIP votes will return to labour? |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:16 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: How many UKIP votes will return to labour? Somewhere between 0 and 0. |
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:18 ] |
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This is where the FPTP voting system will fuck it all up. There will be people like me who would vote Green or Lib Dem, but just to make sure the Conservatives don't get in I will need a tactical Labour vote. If we had a different system then we could vote for who the heck we wanted to, and actually stand a chance of ousting the Conservatives. As it is, they'll get more seats as people's votes get split between the opposing parties in each constituency. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:20 ] |
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300+ Tory majority |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:20 ] |
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Labour could have tactical fun by either denying the super-majority needed to dissolve under the Act, or delaying any repeal or amendment bill. But they probably won't. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:20 ] |
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Mr Russell wrote: This is where the FPTP voting system will fuck it all up. There will be people like me who would vote Green or Lib Dem, but just to make sure the Conservatives don't get in I will need a tactical Labour vote. If we had a different system then we could vote for who the heck we wanted to, and actually stand a chance of ousting the Conservatives. As it is, they'll get more seats as people's votes get split between the opposing parties in each constituency. Oh, very much all of this. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:21 ] |
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Kern wrote: Labour could have tactical fun by either denying the super-majority needed to dissolve under the Act, or delaying any repeal or amendment bill. But they probably won't. They said they would support it, didn't they? |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:22 ] |
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Did they? Been in a meeting for the past hour. Honestly, I turn my back on the country for 60 minutes... |
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| Author: | markg [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:26 ] |
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Mr Russell wrote: This is where the FPTP voting system will fuck it all up. There will be people like me who would vote Green or Lib Dem, but just to make sure the Conservatives don't get in I will need a tactical Labour vote. If we had a different system then we could vote for who the heck we wanted to, and actually stand a chance of ousting the Conservatives. As it is, they'll get more seats as people's votes get split between the opposing parties in each constituency. Any system has its drawbacks but one where most people vote way left of the Tory party's current incarnation but what we get as a result is decades of the cunts is definitely fucked. But it's not going to change any time soon so fuck it. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:30 ] |
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In a vacuum, her reasoning is fairly sound. Quote: "In recent weeks Labour have threatened to vote against the final agreement we reach with the European Union. The Liberal Democrats said they want to grind the business of government to a standstill. The Scottish National Party say they will vote against the legislation that formally repeals Britain's membership of the European Union. And un-elected members of the House of Lords have vowed to fight us every step of the way." "If we do not hold a general election now, their political game playing will continue." I mean, we're not in a vacuum, and so we know that every word of that as a reasoning is abject bollocks, but, otherwise it is fairly sound. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:33 ] |
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Mrs May wrote: The country is coming together Kindly go and fuck yourself. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:38 ] |
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Hmph. Uncharacteristic ungentlemanly conduct there, but I don't like being told that I or my peers feel something we don't. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:44 ] |
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I'd normally be excited at an election (for me, a General Election is like a World Cup Final) but I'm feeling a sense of dread about this. For once I'm a single issue voter: if you're pro-Brexit, I'm not interested.* On the plus side: possibly the last ever General Election to a Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland so we'd better give the old Union a jolly good send off. *My constituency has been Tory for centuries, but it's an important gesture. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:44 ] |
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Kern wrote: Hmph. Uncharacteristic ungentlemanly conduct there, but I don't like being told that I or my peers feel something we don't. Incredibly offensive, isn't it? |
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| Author: | Nik [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:45 ] |
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Cras wrote: Kern wrote: Hmph. Uncharacteristic ungentlemanly conduct there, but I don't like being told that I or my peers feel something we don't. Incredibly offensive, isn't it?  It's like she thinks that because a narrow majority voted for brexit, we all now think it's a great idea and not a huge, looming, long-term disaster. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:47 ] |
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Three weeks isn't a long timeframe. I wonder if they'll actually publish a new manifesto, or whether they'll actually have the gall to use the 2015 manifesto that states they support membership of the single market. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:50 ] |
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Go on Jeremy, here's your chance to seize the initiative, build a broad anti-Tory coalition on the major issue of the day and overthrow the Tories. Quote: Labour will be offering the country an effective alternative to a government that has failed to rebuild the economy, delivered falling living standards and damaging cuts to our schools and NHS. Oh dear. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:54 ] |
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I blame the patriarchy |
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| Author: | Morte [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:54 ] |
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Oh dear god, Brexit, Trump and now this...time to chuck out the TV and all the radios and really get to work on that alcoholism for the next couple of months. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:55 ] |
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Stu's take on it : https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-end-of-sanity/ |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:03 ] |
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zaphod79 wrote: Stu's take on it : https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-end-of-sanity/ Most sensible thing he's written in a long time. I agree with all of it |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:04 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Stu's take on it : https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-end-of-sanity/ Most sensible thing he's written in a long time. I agree with all of it Now I feel dirty. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:04 ] |
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Apart from "how to read a pie chart". |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:15 ] |
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I don't think that's necessarily true that Labour have no seats left to lose. They could easily lose, say, Eltham, where Clive Efford has had 4% and 6% leads over the Tories. There will likely be voters defecting from Lab to Lib, and from UKIP to Con. That could easily see a 7% swing, and it isn't the most marginal seat in the country. Some lost seats would likely go to LDs (Cambridge would be a shock to not flip, IMO), but the only way is most definitely not up. The last three by-elections have all gone terribly for them. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:19 ] |
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Scenario: Conservatives underestimate Remain Backlash. Labour rally from the polls but not to 2015 levels SNP sweep Scotland Lib Dems take a surprising amount of seats Farage becomes an MP It turns out that the tally of votes leaves the Tories short of a majority (unlikely, but this is just for fun). They can't even quite get there with their usual chums, and the LDs refuse to form a government unless Brexit is stopped or made very soft. May (or whomever) offers SNP an immediate referendum in return for their backing on Brexit and austerity. Now there's a fun thing. |
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| Author: | Nik [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:20 ] |
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That'd be the West Lothian Question squared. |
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| Author: | Squirt [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:51 ] |
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If I were the Lib Dems I'd full on double down on the anti brexit policy. Big chunk of pro EU Labour voters they might pick up. |
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