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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

Mate, I look like I could be his son

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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

Mate, I look like I could be his son


In which case, it looks like I totally did your mum.

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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

Mate, I look like I could be his son


In which case, it looks like I totally did your mum.

That would be a MaliCool thing to do

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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

Mate, I look like I could be his son


In which case, it looks like I totally did your mum.

That would be a MaliCool thing to do


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Trump gets a softball opportunity to denounce antisemitism (and a trickier one about the two state solution.) You won't believe what happens next. Well, you probably will, actually.

Source: https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/831924048716300288




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That sounds like the kind of reply anyone could have given with absolutely zero preparation.

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He is just hopelessly out of his depth, doesn't understand the responsibilities of his position and thinks everything is about him. He wanted to be a King, not President.


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He is just hopelessly out of his depth, doesn't understand the responsibilities of his position and thinks everything is about him. He wanted to be a King, not President.

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"...other than takeaways and taxiing what else is there?"

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HATE crime and poor education standards are among the main issues affecting Bradford’s Muslim population, a new report claims.

The Bradford based Council for Mosques has just released its annual report, which says the British Muslim community is under intense scrutiny due to issues like “the menace of terrorism.”


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Lord Neuberger was excellent on R 4 this am. Measured, articulate, and wise when talking about the judiciary, its role and diversity.

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Lord Neuberger was excellent on R 4 this am. Measured, articulate, and wise when talking about the judiciary, its role and diversity.


I'll have to listen to that later.

Whilst much of the 'anger' was just the tabloids trying to whip up a fury to sell newsprint, at the time I did think that when I was at school we barely touched on the constitution or 'civics' suggesting that a lot of people in the country had never really come across the idea of judicial review or why judicial independence is a Good Thing before. Not sure how far the new curriculum goes to rectify this.


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He is just hopelessly out of his depth, doesn't understand the responsibilities of his position and thinks everything is about him. He wanted to be a King, not President.

Paging cavey


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Trump gets a softball opportunity to denounce antisemitism (and a trickier one about the two state solution.) You won't believe what happens next. Well, you probably will, actually.

Source: https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/831924048716300288



Is that... is that... has he really used the old "I'm not [racist/anti-Semitic], I've got loads of [black/Jewish] friends!" cliché?


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Trump gets a softball opportunity to denounce antisemitism (and a trickier one about the two state solution.) You won't believe what happens next. Well, you probably will, actually.

Source: https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/831924048716300288



Is that... is that... has he really used the old "I'm not [racist/anti-Semitic], I've got loads of [black/Jewish] friends!" cliché?

AKA "my black/Jewish friends are almost as privileged as I am, so I am blind to the systemic and systematic inequality that our society is built on."

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Trump, 12:02: "The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! They will be caught!"
Trump, 14:39: "The Democrats had to come up with a story as to why they lost the election, and so badly (306), so they made up a story - RUSSIA. Fake news!"

It's either fake or it's a leak, but it can't be both.

Also, his tweets increasingly sound like something the old man from the mill shouts between the Scooby Gang unmasking him and the police taking him away.


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I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians, the North Koreans, or the French already have his password and are building a Trumpbot to take over Presidential Twitter duties.


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Also, his tweets increasingly sound like something the old man from the mill shouts between the Scooby Gang unmasking him and the police taking him away.

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Also, his tweets increasingly sound like something the old man from the mill shouts between the Scooby Gang unmasking him and the police taking him away.

:D


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This is amazing

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 84481.html

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The President insisted to reporters, his aides and family at his first solo press conference this term that he had "inherited a mess" from Mr Obama, that the Middle East was a "disaster" and that no government had ever taken so much positive action so early on.

"To be honest I inherited a mess. It's a mess," he said. "At home and abroad. A mess. Jobs are pouring out of the country, you see what's going on with all the companies going to Mexico and other places."

He claimed that recent stock market highs and low unemployment numbers were credit to his administration which has been in office for almost one month.
Negative reports from the media on his ties to Russia and his alleged sexual assault against women were "fake news".

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This is amazing

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 84481.html

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The President insisted to reporters, his aides and family at his first solo press conference this term that he had "inherited a mess" from Mr Obama, that the Middle East was a "disaster" and that no government had ever taken so much positive action so early on.

"To be honest I inherited a mess. It's a mess," he said. "At home and abroad. A mess. Jobs are pouring out of the country, you see what's going on with all the companies going to Mexico and other places."

He claimed that recent stock market highs and low unemployment numbers were credit to his administration which has been in office for almost one month.
Negative reports from the media on his ties to Russia and his alleged sexual assault against women were "fake news".


A clearer example of "look! Bunnies!" You couldn't make up.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
It's either fake or it's a leak, but it can't be both.


I made that exact point earlier. Either the Media are reporting the leak correctly or they made it up in which case no leak occurred.

That said, there could be a genuine leak and they reported something else I suppose....


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"We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things,"

I think it's the way he asks confidently "You know what uranium is, right" that makes the subsequent gibberish even more amazing.

Following his debate answer on the nuclear triad I'm not sure he knows anything about "Nuclear" other than "It make a big bang and is bad"

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Following his debate answer on the nuclear triad I'm not sure he knows anything about "Nuclear" other than "It make a big bang and is bad"

I'm not sure he knows that much.


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Based on what I heard on the radio this morning and what I've read online, it sounds like the whole affair was even more frustratingly bad than having to listen to an average audience member on a regular episode of 'Question Time'. It's almost as if political leadership and communication requires a particular set of skills, and whilst we might rail against 'career politicians', those who lack these abilities are found out pretty quickly.


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I think that you can be a politician by being an exceptional, intelligent sort of person or by being merely average but having had the right education and training like Cameron et al. Trump's problem is that he is neither of these things.


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Does he at least call it "nuclear" and not "nukular" ?


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Does he at least call it "nuclear" and not "nukular" ?

Getting him to say nukular rather than " fun bang bang toys" was a problem. Expecting anything more is unrealistic.


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Does he at least call it "nuclear" and not "nukular" ?

Getting him to say nukular rather than " fun bang bang toys" was a problem. Expecting anything more is unrealistic.


They should have limited him to, "Yes!" and, "That would be an ecumenical matter."

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This guy - not Evan Davis - is a fucking moron. Or, to make it more explicit - he comes across as one here. He may or may not be so elsewhere.

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Also, his tweets increasingly sound like something the old man from the mill shouts between the Scooby Gang unmasking him and the police taking him away.


:DD

With Trump some days you worry he is going to start World War III then other days you read his tweets and its just like you describe.

For me there is the odd time when I like what he says, usually he has been rude and broken some international protocol and for a second it make me laugh, just because nobody else does it.

Then its back to the worry of him really being the President :o


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http://doonesbury.washingtonpost.com/strip/set/89

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Article in the 'Washington Post' (I think I ran out of free links this month a long time ago) about the views of Mr Trump's fans at his rally. I honestly don't know how you could start communicating to these people.


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You can't. The ones at rallies are just too far gone.


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Hmm... the House of Lords is discussing the Brexit bill glorious declaration of our independence today whilst the antechamber of the Commons is discussing Mr Trump's Golden Ticket. Action in the main Commons Chamber is the report stage and third reading of the Cultural Property (Armed Conflicts) Bill. What a choice of viewing.


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Article in the 'Washington Post' (I think I ran out of free links this month a long time ago) about the views of Mr Trump's fans at his rally. I honestly don't know how you could start communicating to these people.


I can only imagine them seeing sense after the four years are up and everything has turned to crap, but even then they'd probably blame anyone but Trump. In that article, the supporters are very dismissive of the media and their 'fake news' and yet that whole Swedish thing was something Trump saw on Fox which doesn't sound great. Even when Trump explained his comments on Twitter and lots in Sweden pointed out his error, the supporters all started posting sources backing up Trump, usually the Daily Express it seems.

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The survey found that the Tories were on 44%, up two points, while Labour were on 26%, down one. UKIP were on 13% and the Liberal Democrats on 8%.

When challenged by former Shadow Chancellor Chris Leslie to explain the huge poll lead, Corbyn replied: “Of course I understand what’s going on and the problems we have had in the media.”

But he added that “we do a lot better on social media”,




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Apparently the Labour Grand Plan is to hope that the Tories split over Brexit and that declining living standards will make people vote Labour.

That's a plan that even Baldrick would be ashamed of.

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The survey found that the Tories were on 44%, up two points, while Labour were on 26%, down one. UKIP were on 13% and the Liberal Democrats on 8%.

When challenged by former Shadow Chancellor Chris Leslie to explain the huge poll lead, Corbyn replied: “Of course I understand what’s going on and the problems we have had in the media.”

But he added that “we do a lot better on social media”,

Thanks to MrPSB

Fake news, I guess.

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Latest Guardian poll puts the Tories at 44% and Labour on 26%

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

My only hope is that Corbyn doesn't "peak" too early following the forthcoming by-elections and they get rid. :(

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My only hope is that Corbyn doesn't "peak" too early following the forthcoming by-elections and they get rid. :(

Why do you think it is better for there to be no functioning opposition at this crucial point in British political history?


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My only hope is that Corbyn doesn't "peak" too early following the forthcoming by-elections and they get rid. :(

Why do you think it is better for there to be no functioning opposition at this crucial point in British political history?


You know why.
I genuinely believe (like many people, increasing every day) that most of the big calls Labour have ever made have turned out to have been shit for one reason or another, most especially in economic terms - however doubtless well-intentioned in many cases, or whatever.

So, logically speaking, if something's almost invariably shit, why lament its lack of influence?

If you're asking me: would I like to see a strong, effective, robust and knowledgeable, grown up Opposition formed of intelligent, diverse people from all walks of REAL life and business, well, that's fair enough - but that's just never going to be Labour. Look at them now FFS. As an intelligent man of business and commerce, with a responsible management and technical role, would you seriously trust them to do or run anything? No, I think not.

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Apparently the Labour Grand Plan is to hope that the Tories split over Brexit and that declining living standards will make people vote Labour.

That's a plan that even Baldrick would be ashamed of.


I reckon if you emptied Corbyn's satchel you'd quite possibly find a wooden duck, kid's miniature trumpet and a Robin Hood outfit. :D (Apologies to Blackadder series 4, ep. 2, Corporal Punishment)

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