It's also pretty much sunk as a rational reason for voting patterns by the 'if only women voted' results - which show even the heavily rural areas mostly going blue. So it's only the men in rural areas that are misunderstood and not given their beliefs the respect they deserve?

20th Oct for Batley aft Jo Cox death and same date for Witney elections.

Since the EU referendum on June 23, this country has been turned on its head. The latest proof comes from an unlikely – and indeed unwitting – source. The former England football captain, Gary Lineker.

A few days ago on Twitter, Lineker expressed his disappointment at the lack of sympathy some people in Britain were showing to refugees. In some cases, he believed, their attitude was not only heartless but racist.

In return, he received cascades of indignant abuse. A Ukip MEP, Patrick O’Flynn, suggested he should lose his job as presenter of the BBC’s Match of the Day. Then the Sun joined in, by claiming on its front page that “the BBC was under pressure to fire Gary Lineker”. Apparently, some people were so offended by Lineker’s comments that they proposed a boycott of the brand of crisps he advertises. (Walker’s, if you want to join in. Or, indeed, if you want to buy some extra, out of solidarity.)

There, in microcosm, you see how debate has changed in this country. Everyone’s switched sides.

Because, until quite recently, it was the socially conservative who complained that “you can’t say anything nowadays” without causing outrage among the socially liberal. Now, it’s the socially liberal who complain that “you can’t say anything nowadays” without causing outrage among the socially conservative.

It’s fascinating: a complete role reversal. What are the people calling for Lineker to lose his job, after all, if not hyper-sensitive “special snowflakes” who are trying to “no-platform” someone, merely because he expressed an opinion they didn’t like? Can’t he even mention immigration without people jumping down his throat? Aren’t they just shutting down debate about his legitimate concerns, by taking offence and playing the victim card? Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Honestly. It’s political incorrectness gone mad.

Deacon is amazing but you can't mention him without linking to his best work: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/1004 ... Brown.html

I hadn't realised that was him. Just beautiful.

I've suddenly realised that I really have no opinion on whether the runway should be built at Heathrow or Gatwick. 'London' Oxford, on the other hand...

Bit fucked off Nissan have said that they are staying in Sunderland. Doesn't sit right, to me.

Brexit means subsidies

Yeah, I dunno how I would feel if the government suddenly went about propping up businesses as a result of a poorly thought out decision against facts and stuff.

I mean it's great for the 4,000 workers at the plant. Not so much for anyone else really. Tax payers' money being used to effectively bribe a foreign corporation to stay in the country.

My current feeling is still "most of them voted for it, suffer the consequences" but I think that inducements to stay should not be paid. If this is the desired direction, then the consequences need to be made clear.

In your world, many spiteful faces would be noseless.

In your world, many spiteful faces would be noseless.

Labour are more fucked than ever. How can they show their disapproval for this deal without seeming anti-worker?

Labour are more fucked than ever. How can they show their disapproval for this deal without seeming anti-worker?

Making sweetheart deals with major employers to stay in the UK despite Brexit is the new bailing out failing banks. Party like it's 2009, baby.

Had Labour proposed it, we would be hearing screams of 'Mr Corbyn wants a return to the 1970s!' from the government benches and the tabloids. Although I wouldn't put it past him feeling nostalgic for British Leyland.

And a Tory government just saved jobs in a labour area.....

Blair was saying today it was a Tory party from 1960s and a labour party from 1960s

I find it hard to not like either Supermac or Wilson mark 1 and wish current leaders were like either.

So are we... all in agreement today?

I see Twitter got a fact-checked version of this joke

Thinking about it, I haven't heard much from Corbyn of late. One would have thought he'd be in the papers over Goldman Sachs tapes with some comment or something.

I guess Cavey was right. We're all a bunch of woolly liberals.

Kevin Brannan (Cardiff West) (Lab):

The convention applies only to events after 1954, so we fortunately do not have to revisit all those times in too much detail; otherwise, before we knew it, we would have SNP Members going on about the Stone of Scone.

Brendan O’Hara (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) :

We’ve already got it.

Government loses case in high court, act of parliament required to trigger A50.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... itics-live

Government loses case in high court, act of parliament required to trigger A50.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... itics-live

Ah, the courts continue their campaign to annoy May. Super. Well, off to appeals we go?

the MPs won't piss off their constituents who voted leave. A lot of the new Tory MPs are in leave constituencies, I think.

Not to mention Labour ones.

Corbyn will grab this opportunity to delay and delay the three line whip voting for Brexit until the deal Britain wants and needs is reached. The opposition cannot fail us now,

He can't. Too many northern Labour constituencies voted Leave. They will get even more unpopular!