Order. Mr Shelbrooke, I want you to aspire to the apogee of statesmanship, but shrieking from a sedentary position, despite your magnificent suit, is not the way to achieve it. Calm yourself, man; I am trying to help you, even if you don’t know it.

Mhairi Black On trident

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My reasons for voting against Trident renewal.https://t.co/XVHOYcvgNN

— Mhairi Black MP (@MhairiBlack) July 18, 2016

If these weapons are not a security necessity and they are not necessary to save jobs, that prompts the question: what are they for? The fact of the matter is that this is all really about the UK maintaining a permanent place on the UN Security Council. As the hon. Member for Tonbridge and Malling (Tom Tugendhat), who is unfortunately not in his seat, made clear, these weapons serve no purpose other than satisfying the ego of the British establishment. This is about us putting our stamp on a world from which we are isolating ourselves more and more.

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I'd argue that being a permanent member of the UN Security Council is worth preserving and means we're not isolating ourselves. Not sure if it require nuclear weapons to do that but it probably helps.

needed.

Well that's the debate, isn't it. Do we need a nuclear arsenal if the US have one 1000 times the size? What's the point?

I've never really understood this obsession with trying to play with the big boys.

Lies.

I do think use of 'bias' as an adjective is my current greatest pedantry bugbear.

I'm eagerly awaiting the 'Private Eye' parody. Will she be the headmistress, or will they try something different?

The good thing about that is that it doesn't state any particular political point. Everyone can join in! Leaver, remainer, Labour, Conservative, you can all get angry at the BBC together!

It's certainly an odd message. Having nosed around Facebook for it, it seems to be being shared by various Brexit folk, or just plain old racists, often accompanied by this charming image...

Corbyn says there is a system for the reselection of MPs. There will be a boundary review. So new selection processes will have to take place. But sitting MPs will be able to put their names forward.

Crikey.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 49086.html

Crikey.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 49086.html

He should go quietly.

It doesn't make the MPs look good though, not respecting the democratic process of the party. Let's keep having elections until we get the result we want. It'll drive people away.

As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents

He's driving people away now. He's done naff all except put people off Labour. He cannot even pull a shadow cabinet together. His support are bunch of screaming elmos who are more pleased to tell their mates they are part of a political movement than concerned thattheir movement is causing more harm to the people they claim to care about because it has led to no credible opposition, Brexit, and Government doing what they want. They don't want power, they have said that, they just wamt to scream "it could be better". It's disgusting.

Yes yes, you've been on your soapbox for quite some time now, but I am specifically talking about the leadership elections. Is it right that MPs ignore the will of the people and keep holding them until they get the answer they want or hope he walks away?

What if, as is suggested by the option polls, the MPs' constituents are telling them not to support Corbyn? Should they ignore the will of the people?

Well maybe those constituents should join the Labour Party and influence the process in a manner which is already established and understood.

So if I had wanted to lobby my Conservative MP to vote against a third runway for Heathrow because I was concerned about air pollution levels, I should have joined the Conservative Party?

Yes yes, you've been on your soapbox for quite some time now, but I am specifically talking about the leadership elections. Is it right that MPs ignore the will of the people and keep holding them until they get the answer they want or hope he walks away? What credibility will they retain by doing this?

I can't see how anyone will come out of this with any dignity the way things are going.

Well maybe those constituents should join the Labour Party and influence the process in a manner which is already established and understood

You seem reluctant to criticise him.instead, you whatabouttery, wanting to argue process and try to paint wanting rid of him to be undemocratic.

How do you think he's done? What do you think he has achieved?

For me, it's now gone beyond farce and events are literally too absurd to even quote now. The Labour Party are truly beyond parody; show me the person who'd still vote for that lot to run the country, I'll show you an individual suffering major involuntary axial eye movements. I mean, seriously? They make Screaming Lord Such look like a viable choice - and he's been dead since 1999.

He's driving people away now. He's done naff all except put people off Labour. He cannot even pull a shadow cabinet together. His support are bunch of screaming elmos who are more pleased to tell their mates they are part of a political movement than concerned thattheir movement is causing more harm to the people they claim to care about because it has led to no credible opposition, Brexit, and Government doing what they want. They don't want power, they have said that, they just wamt to scream "it could be better". It's disgusting.

It must be some comfort. I can only imagine how much of a absolute cunt anyone must feel for having voted in David Cameron right now.