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| Author: | BikNorton [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread |
Crucially, because dishi was worried about himself, not the sins she was committing in his and our name. More of the same from the noob I expect. |
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| Author: | Malc [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:08 ] |
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Cameron is the new Foreign secretary! I think that means he has to be sworn in as a Lord? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:10 ] |
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Malc wrote: Cameron is the new Foreign secretary! I think that means he has to be sworn in as a Lord? No. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:16 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Malc wrote: Cameron is the new Foreign secretary! I think that means he has to be sworn in as a Lord? No. Oh, apparently he does. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:19 ] |
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He doesn't have to be. But he will be. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:26 ] |
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Cost of doing business |
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| Author: | Kern [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:26 ] |
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That's a surprise comeback. Did he finally tire of hiding of shame in his shepherd's hut in the Cotswolds? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:28 ] |
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Ah, it's ministerial code thing. |
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| Author: | Warhead [ Mon Nov 13, 2023 18:35 ] |
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BikNorton wrote: Crucially, because dishi was worried about himself, not the sins she was committing in his and our name. More of the same from the noob I expect. I don't really care why she's gone, I'm just glad that she has. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Nov 14, 2023 18:04 ] |
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Warhead wrote: BikNorton wrote: Crucially, because dishi was worried about himself, not the sins she was committing in his and our name. More of the same from the noob I expect. I don't really care why she's gone, I'm just glad that she has. Fucking brilliant! She kept the receipts! |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:01 ] |
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Rwanda deportation is not lawful. Hahahahahahaha! Sue Ellen must be even more livid now. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:33 ] |
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4-45pm presser? Resignation? GE? It's the hope that kills you. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:38 ] |
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Remember when Theresa May would step outside Downing Street to tell us to all fuck off? Halcyon days. |
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| Author: | Malc [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:53 ] |
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MaliA wrote: 4-45pm presser? Resignation? GE? It's the hope that kills you. My guess is that it's about the Rwanda decision, and how he's still going to stop the boats and maybe about planning to leave the ECHR |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:56 ] |
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Malc wrote: MaliA wrote: 4-45pm presser? Resignation? GE? It's the hope that kills you. My guess is that it's about the Rwanda decision, and how he's still going to stop the boats and maybe about planning to leave the ECHR Sur, why not replace an unworkable idea with one even more so? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:57 ] |
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If 30p Lee is seriously suggesting we should ignore laws we disagree with, I hope those fence around Diana's island are pretty strong. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:59 ] |
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It's a good job Rwanda doesn't know how desperate the UK government is to get a deal with them and will literally do anything. that'd be a terrible place to start negotiating. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2023 21:19 ] |
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I'm fairly comfortable with the idea of a government legislating to remove obstacles that have arisen from a court decision. The courts are saying "as it stands, the rules are this, and we don't think what you're doing is in line" so changing the rules is fine, and probably what governments should do to achieve legislative aims. However, legislating that black is white and declaring it the truth is, indeed, batshit, to steal the words of a fellow Blood Angels player. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Fri Nov 17, 2023 14:27 ] |
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An interesting read on the Rwanda ideas that are being floated around and one of the major limitations they will hit : https://iandunt.substack.com/p/rwanda-t ... medium=web |
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| Author: | Kern [ Fri Nov 17, 2023 17:33 ] |
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Shot of the Week in the official Friday Pub is the rather unsubtly titled Lord Pig F*****: vodka, archers, and apple sours. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:03 ] |
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If Sunak really did cancel meeting the Greek PM because he didn't want to be asked about the Elgin Marbles he really is dimmer than I feared. I mean, it's like when ministers meet rulers of nasty regimes and say they'll raise human rights concerns. It probably means nothing more than just saying "human rights? ok, let's move on". Of course, now Starmer's talked about some form of loan agreement nowadays I half-expect him to roll back on that one too. |
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| Author: | markg [ Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:57 ] |
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What's the argument for not just fucking giving them back. Surely it's not worth this sort of hassle for a few people to look at some statues. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:16 ] |
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markg wrote: What's the argument for not just fucking giving them back. Surely it's not worth this sort of hassle for a few people to look at some statues. We nicked them, fair and square. If they want them back, they can take it up with the Ottoman Empire |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:21 ] |
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Reading the Wiki page for the Elgin Marbles has led me to this... Quote: The Erechtheion was used as a munitions store by the Ottomans during the Greek War of Independence[68] (1821–1833) which ended the 355-year Ottoman rule of Athens. The Acropolis was besieged twice during the war, first by the Greeks in 1821–22 and then by the Ottoman forces in 1826–27. During the first siege the besieged Ottoman forces attempted to melt the lead in the columns to cast bullets, even prompting the Greeks to offer their own bullets to the Ottomans in order to minimize damage.[69] Which is fascinating |
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| Author: | Squirt [ Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:29 ] |
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Seems to me like the Greek PM might be a handy person to have on-side if you're making "Stopping the Boats" a big deal, as he's dealing with a much much much larger "small boat" issue himself. Obviously not, though. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:35 ] |
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markg wrote: What's the argument for not just fucking giving them back. Surely it's not worth this sort of hassle for a few people to look at some statues. Because everyone one else will want their stuff back. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:43 ] |
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Zardoz wrote: markg wrote: What's the argument for not just fucking giving them back. Surely it's not worth this sort of hassle for a few people to look at some statues. Because everyone one else will want their stuff back. Indeed. Elgin saved them from the Turks who where destroying them, sold them to Britain, who put them in a museum. Modern Greece now wants them, as they used to be on land that they now occupy. Do they have a right to them? Possibly, possibly not, could be argued either way. But what it would do is open up every museum everywhere for similar claims. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Dec 06, 2023 20:17 ] |
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Robert Jenrick has resigned as immigration minister, on the grounds that the Rwanda bill wasn't evil enough. Don't want to wish my life away but could we please skip to the election and get rid of these useless, cretinous, morons? |
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| Author: | JBR [ Wed Dec 06, 2023 23:55 ] |
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| Author: | JBR [ Wed Dec 06, 2023 23:58 ] |
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Being right-wing really is an intellectual vacuum, and one of the most irritating of their remaining tactics is this Uber-redefinition of words. They've always done it - tedious distractions on how 'altruism' doesn't exist because they only understand helping in return for something - but this attempt to get to a meaning of 'sovereignty'='total ability to do whatever we want because we think states always could after Westphalia', ignoring the fact that every treaty and trade deal reduces sovereignty because it's complicated, is incredibly wearing. And is going to be hard to educate away. |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:00 ] |
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They've set up a Newtons cradle, presumably accidentally - "the boats" distract from the climate privateering, the climate privateering distracts from "the boats". I wish I could just turn off the new tab in Chrome with all the recommended bilge and anger but it does also regularly throw up genuinely useful, interesting things that I wouldn't see otherwise. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:27 ] |
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Quote: One Tory MP said: ‘When Farage comes back he’s going to be all over the airwaves, and he’s going to have us in his sights.’ Another said: ‘Reform are going to kill us, so we have to buy Farage off. The plan is we get him into the Lords, give him some brief like we did with Cameron – maybe even home secretary – then go to the country with the dream team. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... itics-live |
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| Author: | JBR [ Mon Dec 11, 2023 15:27 ] |
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Feel myself zooming in several times on the words "the dream team". Empty laughter echoes. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 19:52 ] |
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Tory resigns as MP over vote to issue new oil and gas licences. Out of the spirit of generosity, I feel I have to applaud anyone who finally does the right thing (in a different life, I would have made an excellent clergyman) but can't we just get rid of the lot now rather than another few months of this? |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Fri Jan 26, 2024 17:17 ] |
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Sweet |
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| Author: | Kern [ Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:07 ] |
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Brilliant Stephen Collins cartoon in this month's Prospect: National Metaphor |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:10 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Resurfaces in Rochdale for a few months |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Fri Mar 22, 2024 15:18 ] |
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Utter woke nonsense. |
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| Author: | Warhead [ Sun Mar 24, 2024 19:15 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Utter woke nonsense. RUOK? |
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| Author: | Warhead [ Sun Mar 24, 2024 19:18 ] |
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Attachment: What we know about the attack on moss cow.jpg The ring leader was a white wabbit, but apparently not the white wabbit they were looking for. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:26 ] |
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Another day, another Tory doing something they shouldn't. There'll be no MPs left by the election at this rate. |
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| Author: | Squirt [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:28 ] |
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Both Menzies and Wragg are just plain strange. I miss the old-school corruption where you'd just accept a envelope full of 50s to wave a planning application through, you knew where you were with that sort of thing, compared to whatever the hell is going on now. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:36 ] |
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It should be a resignation issue. |
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| Author: | markg [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:18 ] |
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Who hasn't used work money to get released from a flat where they were held to ransom after a night out with sketchy individuals? Fucking hypocrites. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:26 ] |
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markg wrote: Who hasn't used work money to get released from a flat where they were held to ransom after a night out with sketchy individuals? Fucking hypocrites. Is that not a standard everyday thing that happens to anyone? In Fylde. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:29 ] |
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Worst escape room ever. 1 star. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:30 ] |
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The BBC website says this... Quote: He has been a parliamentary aide to three Tory ministers - but resigned the last of these roles in 2014, after a newspaper reported allegations from a Brazilian male escort that he paid him for sex and asked him to buy an illegal drug. I mean, that could have happened to anyone? Right?!? |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:38 ] |
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Who doesn't find drunk dogs funny? Tory MP Mark Menzies interviewed by police over claims he got dog drunk and started brawl with friend [Indy, 2017] |
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| Author: | JBR [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 15:23 ] |
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Oh come now, all these Tory MPs are being investigated for various sex and other crimes, but have you not heard that Angela Rayner might owe 3 or 4 THOUSAND pounds in capital gains tax? Therefore they're all as bad, id quo pro, I am smart, mic drop. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Apr 18, 2024 19:43 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: markg wrote: Who hasn't used work money to get released from a flat where they were held to ransom after a night out with sketchy individuals? Fucking hypocrites. Is that not a standard everyday thing that happens to anyone? In Fylde. That’s the end of my synth money… |
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