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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:13 
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It's an editorial exploring the ideas, not a news report. Some of it I agree with. You don't have to!

You also don't have to get outraged every time your faves get criticised.


It's the guardian's editorial view of her. It says it at the top of the page.

The issue I have with it isn't to do with Swift. It's the insinuations (similarities to Trump), being guilty by association (Country is republican!), the "and people who have saId this got lawsuited". It seems that if someone doesn't pull a Dixie Chicks, then they are right to be denounced. It's wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:26 
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I have to agree. I couldn't really give two hoots about Taylor Swift, but singling her out in that article seems unnecessary when you could quite easily level the same "accusations" (or insinuations, I suppose) against many artists. A little bit too clickbaity for my liking.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I basically came away from that with "Taylor Swift has white friends and hasn't publically spoken out against the President, how fucking dare she", with a bit of "Any maybe she's a racist but we're fucked if we're going to say that so here's a link".

It's clickbait, basically.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:57 
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I basically don't know any of her music, but damn, that article is a stretch.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 22:35 
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If that's what you gleaned from that article (or more likely the headline) then I don't know what to say.


FFS myp. No one remotely suggested it said she was a "literal nazi". If you struggle that much with the use of hyperbole for effect then it's your critical faculties letting the side down here. That or you're going for a masterful level of ironic hypocrisy.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 23:22 
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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:03 
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Remember this sign from a while back? No?
Well, to refresh:

Parking behind the CoOp was 20 mins free. Then signs and ANPR appeared, and you had to type car reg in to get 20 free minutes. Many didn't, and were fined as per T&Cs.

Anyhoo, I dropped a note to local counciller and local MP over the signs not being terribly clear. Counciller responded and he had passed it over to MP. So, MP raises the issue in Parliament, and sends me half a dozen letters with copies of his correspondance with the council solicitors, parking ombudsman and other people.

Today, in the local paper reports:
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THE operator of a controversial car park has been ordered to shut it down and refund thousands of pounds in fines slapped on unsuspecting motorists.

Bradford Council took the dramatic step after receiving a host of complaints about the way private car park company Smart Parking was running the site at Oastler Road, Saltaire.

The authority was able to step in after discovering that the patch of land had never legally been turned into a car park and was still part of the public highway.

But in doing so, the Council has also had to hold its hands up to running the car park illegally itself for more than a decade, and now faces a major refund programme of its own.


http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... ial_fines/

Which is amazing. And has amused me.

So, I think P Davies will do OK in an election, again, as he's shown himself to be looking after community interests, especially as the council is a Labour run one and fingers can be pointed.

EXCITING CAR PARK UPDATE


http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... _launched/



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Cllr Alex Ross-Shaw, the Council’s executive member for regeneration, planning and transport, said: “We have started negotiations with the company, Saltaire Investments, and we are helping them to clarify the highway status of the land.

“As the car park is still operating illegally, we have also served a notice on the company to remove the car parking equipment from the site.


Not sure if I'm meant to type car reg in anymore or not, but it looks like a proper car park still.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... _car_park/

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THE operators of a controversial car park which was ordered to shut down appear to be fighting back.

Private car park company Smart Parking has drawn anger from motorists over the way it has been handing out fines at Oastler Road car park in Saltaire.

The furore prompted Bradford Council to declare the site unlawful and serve a notice ordering the car park to close by November 24.

But in an apparent act of defiance against this notice, the company has now lodged a retrospective planning application for its parking signs, in a move one councillor branded “hilarious”.


Amazing.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/N ... _car_park/

Further developments in the Oastler Road Car Park fiasco

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:06 
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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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That reminded me to pay my parking ticket. Thanks, Mali!

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:21 
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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:36 
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Listening to Anne Coulter on the radio this morning was painful. She's horrible but speaks so fast it was hard for Nick Robinson to interrupt with questions. Glad he asked about mass shootings: you could hear her mental contortions as she struggled for a response. Not an interview I'll be listening again to, however.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:36 
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I don’t even know what to say about that cunt Donald Trump. Every day he hits a new low and keeps digging.

Doesn’t even bother with dog whistles any more, just screams racist diatribes down a megaphone. Says the objective truth doesn’t actually matter because his truth is more important. Openly supports a pedophile. Now openly a fascist and revelling in it. There is no such thing as a moderate Republican any more. It’s insane.

Theresa May needs to rescind the offer of a state visit. Fuck the ‘special relationship’; this is an abusive relationship.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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It amazing to see his staff stumble to defend his actions with a panicked, desperate look in their eyes.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:43 
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I don't think it matters. He said he's not coming until he's guaranteed a good reception.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:45 
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I reckon the government are hoping to stretch this out for so long that he's gone and Mike Pence comes instead. Not sure Mr Pence would want to share a room alone with the Queen, however.

As for the ghastly Mr Trump, I sometimes wonder if we ignore him would he just go away?


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I don't think it matters. He said he's not coming until he's guaranteed a good reception.


He shouldn't worry about this. He's going to attract bigger crowds than Barack Obama ever did!


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Listening to Anne Coulter on the radio this morning was painful. She's horrible but speaks so fast it was hard for Nick Robinson to interrupt with questions. Glad he asked about mass shootings: you could hear her mental contortions as she struggled for a response. Not an interview I'll be listening again to, however.


Oh, god, yes. Thornberry was excellent afterward's, though, a cut above the rest.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I don't think it matters. He said he's not coming until he's guaranteed a good reception.


Still, to have the PM defending his proposed state visit is a shitty look, IMO. I get the pragmatism of not wanting to damage existing relationships, but it reeks of desperation and only doing it in case it helps with Brexit. Which it won’t.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I don't think it matters. He said he's not coming until he's guaranteed a good reception.


Still, to have the PM defending his proposed state visit is a shitty look, IMO. I get the pragmatism of not wanting to damage existing relationships, but it reeks of desperation and only doing it in case it helps with Brexit. Which it won’t.


She was far too hasty in extending the invite, and it just looked weak and desperate.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Kern wrote:
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I don't think it matters. He said he's not coming until he's guaranteed a good reception.


Still, to have the PM defending his proposed state visit is a shitty look, IMO. I get the pragmatism of not wanting to damage existing relationships, but it reeks of desperation and only doing it in case it helps with Brexit. Which it won’t.


She was far too hasty in extending the invite, and it just looked weak and desperate.


Christ, yes.

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It's given her the chance to make a strong statement by rescinding it now, though. But she fucking won't.


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We've got to keep up the fiction that the invite comes from Mrs Windsor herself.

To be honest, whilst I understand the realpolitik in giving really nasty rulers the golden carriage treatment, it's not something I'm comfortable with and we shouldn't need to roll out the red carpet to such a close ally.


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We should gift them IoM

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We should gift them IoM


I understand it's a haven for really successful car dealers

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I understand it's a haven for really successful car dealers


Brexit solved!

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I don’t even know what to say about that cunt Donald Trump. Every day he hits a new low and keeps digging.

Doesn’t even bother with dog whistles any more, just screams racist diatribes down a megaphone. Says the objective truth doesn’t actually matter because his truth is more important. Openly supports a pedophile. Now openly a fascist and revelling in it. There is no such thing as a moderate Republican any more. It’s insane.

Theresa May needs to rescind the offer of a state visit. Fuck the ‘special relationship’; this is an abusive relationship.


I wonder if we'll still get our really really big trade deal, y'know, to make up for Brexit.

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Following Donald Trump’s hatemongering by way of retweeting Britain First’s anti-Muslim videos, and his petulant reply to Theresa May’s mild rebuke, it’s clear the only response that will make it apparent how offensive his behaviour is to the UK is for the PM to administer a boot in the knackers.


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I'll deny all knowledge of you ask me, but I reckon Teresa has dealt with the Trump Tweet Twattastophe quite well.


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