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Elon Musk's underground vacuum tubes will be everywhere by then. You'll be fired in a capsule at 7 times the speed of sound to exactly where you want to go!


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I don't like teleporters. I subscribe to the theory that teleporters kill you, from the moment you use one you will experience nothing ever again, but nobody else will be able to tell.


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I don't like teleporters. I subscribe to the theory that teleporters kill you, from the moment you use one you will experience nothing ever again, but nobody else will be able to tell.


Yeah, that happened to Gaywood, already. He's a robot now.

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Elon Musk's underground vacuum tubes will be everywhere by then. You'll be fired in a capsule at 7 times the speed of sound to exactly where you want to go!


Imagine being the first member of the public to die in a Musk-Tube accident.

It feels like a very unedifying way to go. You'll be like a chewed up Pepparami in a Fleshlight.


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I don't like teleporters. I subscribe to the theory that teleporters kill you, from the moment you use one you will experience nothing ever again, but nobody else will be able to tell.

It's a good philosophical question.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I don't like teleporters. I subscribe to the theory that teleporters kill you, from the moment you use one you will experience nothing ever again, but nobody else will be able to tell.

I've often wondered about that. A true teleporter that actually sends You (capital Y) instead of just a reanimated copy of you would need to break down your matter into energy and send the actual energy to be reassembled. If it was just scanning every atom and rebuilding it from raw material at the other end, then does it just annihilate the original?

Imagine the Scene: The first time a Starfleet officer uses a transporter.

"ENGAGE"

The machine whirrs, lights flash and... nothing. The officer remains where he was. A technician comes out of a side room.

"Hello, Ensign. The machine has cloned you and sent a copy to your destination. You, the original, are no longer required for the mission. Here are you discharge papers and a ticket for your return journey by shuttle. Have a nice life!"

All of the Star Trek characters are just copies of the originals, who are living it up on Riza.


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Perhaps in future times they'll have uncovered the secrets of consciousness and those questions would no longer be philosophical. You won't catch me in one, though. I'll tell you that!


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Perhaps in future times they'll have uncovered the secrets of consciousness and those questions would no longer be philosophical. You won't catch me in one, though. I'll tell you that!


The real 'you' would be pickled in a jar on a shelf in a warehouse, controlling the physical 'you' via the matrix.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Perhaps in future times they'll have uncovered the secrets of consciousness and those questions would no longer be philosophical. You won't catch me in one, though. I'll tell you that!


No, because I'd really rather my mind and thoughts and feelings couldn't be boiled down to an algorthim. It'd make it all somewhat pointless.

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markg wrote:
I don't like teleporters. I subscribe to the theory that teleporters kill you, from the moment you use one you will experience nothing ever again, but nobody else will be able to tell.

I've often wondered about that. A true teleporter that actually sends You (capital Y) instead of just a reanimated copy of you would need to break down your matter into energy and send the actual energy to be reassembled. If it was just scanning every atom and rebuilding it from raw material at the other end, then does it just annihilate the original?

Imagine the Scene: The first time a Starfleet officer uses a transporter.

"ENGAGE"

The machine whirrs, lights flash and... nothing. The officer remains where he was. A technician comes out of a side room.

"Hello, Ensign. The machine has cloned you and sent a copy to your destination. You, the original, are no longer required for the mission. Here are you discharge papers and a ticket for your return journey by shuttle. Have a nice life!"

All of the Star Trek characters are just copies of the originals, who are living it up on Riza.


See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Ch ... Generation) for duplicate Star Trek folk caused by transporters.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Thread split?


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Thread split?


Make it so

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Perhaps in future times they'll have uncovered the secrets of consciousness and those questions would no longer be philosophical. You won't catch me in one, though. I'll tell you that!

Stick to your electric bathtub mate.

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The future will be about remote manipulation rather than sending yourself somewhere.

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The future will be about remote manipulation rather than sending yourself somewhere.

You heard.

Telepresence, in VR, with full immersion. Better than life, you might say.


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DavPaz wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
The future will be about remote manipulation rather than sending yourself somewhere.

You heard.

Telepresence, in VR, with full immersion. Better than life, you might say.


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DavPaz wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
The future will be about remote manipulation rather than sending yourself somewhere.

You heard.

Telepresence, in VR, with full immersion. Better than life, you might say.


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The future will be about remote manipulation rather than sending yourself somewhere.

You heard.

Telepresence, in VR, with full immersion. Better than life, you might say.

Unless they add Ed Sheeran.

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The future will be about remote manipulation rather than sending yourself somewhere.

You heard.

Telepresence, in VR, with full immersion. Better than life, you might say.

Unless they add Ed Sheeran.

I dunno, I'd happily fully immerse Ed Sheeran.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Elon Musk's underground vacuum tubes will be everywhere by then. You'll be fired in a capsule at 7 times the speed of sound to exactly where you want to go!


Imagine being the first member of the public to die in a Musk-Tube accident.

It feels like a very unedifying way to go. You'll be like a chewed up Pepparami in a Fleshlight.

I imagine it just spraying you out the other end in a sort-of aerosol mist. The controllers would know you'd hit a loose access panel half the way along but wouldn't be able to stop you, and so would just continue pumping you through the tube.


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Perhaps in future times they'll have uncovered the secrets of consciousness and those questions would no longer be philosophical. You won't catch me in one, though. I'll tell you that!


No, because I'd really rather my mind and thoughts and feelings couldn't be boiled down to an algorthim. It'd make it all somewhat pointless.

I've given it a fair bit of thought on and off and I think I've decided that we're just made of algorithms, our consciousness is little more than a rollercoaster ride and free will is an illusion. You heard it here first.


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Elon Musk's underground vacuum tubes will be everywhere by then. You'll be fired in a capsule at 7 times the speed of sound to exactly where you want to go!


Imagine being the first member of the public to die in a Musk-Tube accident.

It feels like a very unedifying way to go. You'll be like a chewed up Pepparami in a Fleshlight.

I imagine it just spraying you out the other end in a sort-of aerosol mist. The controllers would know you'd hit a loose access panel half the way along but wouldn't be able to stop you, and so would just continue pumping you through the tube.


I think it's fair to say the technical and safety issues of having a vacuum tube that long are pretty much insurmountable.

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Of course, if souls don't exist and there's no afterlife, what are we but crudely animated sacks of meat?


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