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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 9:53 
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This morning I saw a photo of Mr Trump and Republican congressmen celebrating taking healthcare away from people in the US and it quite put me off my breakfast. Domestic politics in another country shouldn't bother me so much, but this one does because it's so dam brazen.


My real problem is I could see the exact same thing happening here - you read about this and think 'why would anyone vote for it' and realize they are doing it because they will make themselves more money

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pl ... ba787222bd

So basically take lots of money that the government is using for healthcare and instead give the top earners in the country a tax break.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Is this really where we are now? It feels like everything that's happened since 9/11 has been a slow, inexorable slide to the right. Politics of fear is actually fucking winning.

Also, you rarely see a Tory celebration picture with lots of young happy people in it, do? Just a lot of middle aged and elderly, clutching their fucking handbags away from the FORRINS and the TERRORIZTS!

Fuck this, I'm moving to the moon.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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But hey, at least UKIP is disappearing.

Silver linings...


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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But hey, at least UKIP is disappearing.

Silver linings...


UKIP is disappearing because all the people that agreed with their policies and the way there were going about things see that the conservative party is doing exactly what they want to do so are voting for them.

To me that's not a silver lining :-(

(I took something you were happy about and made it bad and I'm sorry for that)

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Bah!

Moon it is, then!


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Early indications suggest the turnout for the Merseyside Metro Mayoral election may be as low as 25%


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Kern wrote:
This morning I saw a photo of Mr Trump and Republican congressmen celebrating taking healthcare away from people in the US and it quite put me off my breakfast. Domestic politics in another country shouldn't bother me so much, but this one does because it's so dam brazen.

:this: :(

It prompted me to write a short essay on twitter, describing my feelings about said Republicans (tl;dr - it's not very complimentary).


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It prompted me to write a short essay on twitter, describing my feelings about said Republicans .


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Kern, when are you going to run? We need someone sensible in charge.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Jesus. These local results are depressing. Cuntservatives are going to get in again.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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The Republican shit in the States is beyond vile. It will, by their own admissions, kill more Americans than Al Qaeda and ISIS have ever done, and they're celebrating it. Just horrible.

Not to mention that it appears to make being assaulted or raped a pre-existing condition. Which seems terribly odd and horrible. So women who don't want to lose their health insurance shouldn't report their rape. I wonder which party full of fucking rapists put that through Congress.

Silver lining is that the Senate is crazy, but less crazy than the House. Hopefully it never gets passed.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Curiosity wrote:
So women who don't want to lose their health insurance shouldn't report their rape.


Indeed, bit of a rapists' charter, given they'll know their victims will likely not report it.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Jesus. These local results are depressing.


Turnout here in the Shire is 33%. I wish more people would take an interest in local politics: yes, they lack the budget or powers they ought to have but the decisions they do make still matter. I'll get off my high horse now. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I voted in the evening and was dismayed to see a lack of ruled lines next to names as they looked for mine on the print outs.

PEOPLE. START GIVING A FUCK please.

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I voted in the evening and was dismayed to see a lack of ruled lines next to names as they looked for mine on the print outs.

PEOPLE. START GIVING A FUCK please.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Curiosity wrote:
Not to mention that it appears to make being assaulted or raped a pre-existing condition. Which seems terribly odd and horrible. So women who don't want to lose their health insurance shouldn't report their rape. I wonder which party full of fucking rapists put that through Congress.

Have you got a source for this? Even the most ardent anti republican news sources I read haven't breathed a word about this.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Not to mention that it appears to make being assaulted or raped a pre-existing condition. Which seems terribly odd and horrible. So women who don't want to lose their health insurance shouldn't report their rape. I wonder which party full of fucking rapists put that through Congress.

Have you got a source for this? Even the most ardent anti republican news sources I read haven't breathed a word about this.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 18661.html


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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It also makes it a precondition to have had a C-section or be a victim of domestic violence

https://qz.com/975894/under-the-republi ... onditions/

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C-sections, since they can lead to future health complications, for instance leading to the development of conditions such as placenta accreta in future pregnancies, or making future deliveries through C-sections far more likely, exposing the mother to higher risks of hemorrhage and post-surgery complications.

Sexual assault, as it can put people at a higher risk for mental-health issues and substance abuse. (In some instances in the past—like the case of Christina Turner, in Texas, before Obamacare was implemented—getting prescribed medication like HIV retroviral drugs after a rape has compromised women’s ability to secure coverage.)

Domestic violence, since it can lead to a higher need for mental and physical health care.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Nik wrote:
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Curiosity wrote:
Not to mention that it appears to make being assaulted or raped a pre-existing condition. Which seems terribly odd and horrible. So women who don't want to lose their health insurance shouldn't report their rape. I wonder which party full of fucking rapists put that through Congress.

Have you got a source for this? Even the most ardent anti republican news sources I read haven't breathed a word about this.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 18661.html

Thank you, Sir.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Jesus Christ!

Amen.

That's... well, words sort of fail me, but "appalling" will do for now.

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The hope is that they've given themselves lots of rope to hang themselves with by passing a bill that apparently stands little chance of passing the senate.

But that does rely on an informed public...


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Results for the Shire are in. Tories remain one short of a majority, but a number of seats flipped. The two Green ones went to Labour, and we've got a new party represented: the Henley Residents' Group.


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Fucking hell, as well as putting the Tories in the absolute fucking morons round here have given UKIP their only council seat so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 15:29 
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Aaaaaaaaaand Tees Valley have voted for the Tory.

At least it was close.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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MrChris wrote:
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God I hate the role of the media in politics.

What's it done now? The reporting on Abbott's utter incompetence is fair isn't it?

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Aaaaaaaaaand Tees Valley have voted for the Tory.

At least it was close.


You'll get your airport back.

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Aaaaaaaaaand Tees Valley have voted for the Tory.


I voted for a Tory. As dirty as it makes me feel being generally anti-Tory at every level, the Tory candidate was the best for the job locally. He has lived here all his life and already achieved tons for the town in his position as mayor and alongside the town council which IMO for local council positions is more important than party politics.

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That's cool, people are of course free to vote however they feel, but Tees valley turning blue makes me sick. Short, short memories.


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Aaaaaaaaaand Tees Valley have voted for the Tory.

At least it was close.


You'll get your airport back.

http://www.darlingtonandstocktontimes.c ... f=mrb&lp=1

Waste of money. Teesside Airport was always a shed in meadow, and wasting money on trying to resurrect it is folly.


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