All the parties are mostly up their own arse and out of touch with everyone aside from the rich donors they need to run elections.

For the last few years the rich have gained more and paid less, the welfare state grows larger with often perceived injustices around EU immigration.

All the time the middle band who work hard to own their own homes and better themselves get screwed for tax and are refinancing a still corrupt and out of control banking system who borrow at 0.5% and lend to every else at 4-25%

It’s these people that are attracted to UKIP not because then see them as a credible government but because they want a protest vote and the other more credible parties to take notice.

Joking aside, it is still a Lib Dem policy. It just wasn't ever one of the higher priority ones, so it got lost in the coalition agreement.

Nobody votes for UKIP because logic and reason are their strong suits. They're basically taking the "thick as pigshit" vote from all the other parties.

I don't understand why people vote for UKIP for MEPs. All they do is go and refuse to vote on issues, even issues that they agree with. But they still draw pay and take up space. So rather than fighting the EU to try and make it better for the UK they simply abstain. It's stupid. Can MEPs even make the UK leave the EU? It's that entirely up the MPs?

Never mind voting, you should become an MEP!

80K a year basic, huge allowances for assitansts, staying in Brussels and even 40K a year for having an office at home

Most of which just needs to be claimed with no recipts

Money for old rope for 5 years!

And you wonder why your average Brit is pissed off with EU, and mainstream politicians? Farage has struck political gold and he knows it. He's making hay big time.

Yes but at the same time he will be filling his boots as well!

Farage has struck political gold and he knows it. He's making hay big time.

Let's be honest, most of the electorate are thick as pigshit though? Sorry, I know that sounds obnoxious, but how the hell else could you explain someone slavishly voting Labour despite their utterly lamentable record - much of which they've had to come out and actually publicly apologise for?

Compromise is, sadly, a dirty word in politics.

Because as disappointed as they may be by Labour they hate Tories even more and don't want to see another fucking Tory government.

Get real. I'm sure loads of people vote for the Tory party because they see it as the least worst option too.

He's Oswald Mosley 2.0.

Of course what I'd actually like is a diverse group of people working together to find decent solutions rather than the seesaw tribal bullshit and jeering that we currently have.

So very much this. It appears to me that you rarely see someone in politics talking about what we should do to solve a problem when, instead, they could just spend loads of time slagging off their opponents idea instead; as if being negative about other shit was somehow a positive contribution. Or you get the media making a shitstorm out of stuff like whether David Cameron eats fucking sausage rolls or not. Put it all together and trying to give a shit is an uphill struggle.

(As for would-be voters having to give a presentation before casting their vote...? Meh! I don't think so; I bet half of the electorate wouldn't even be able to deliver a presentation on anything, let alone contemporary politics!)

I think you missed the entire point, there.

No, I think I understood it perfectly well.

As for would-be voters having to give a presentation before casting their vote

Trouble with that is you'd have candidates squabbling over who goes first, last, could they be arsed, could voters be arsed sitting through up to six presentations etc etc = not practical.

Just get some scientists to make a decent online poll about your opinion on certain issues, including their importance, and let it choose who you should vote for.

I did this survey thing today. It seems pretty neutral.

Just get some scientists to make a decent online poll about your opinion on certain issues, including their importance, and let it choose who you should vote for.

I did this survey thing today. It seems pretty neutral.

Here's that flyer. I reckon it's Labour

I did this survey thing today. It seems pretty neutral.

Just get some scientists to make a decent online poll about your opinion on certain issues, including their importance, and let it choose who you should vote for.

They'd just argue about what the answers mean forever, though.