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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 19:12 
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http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/10 ... ecome-ukip

They always fucking were.


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They always fucking were.

Well, they were and then they weren't quite so bad, and now they've reverted to type.

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No the rank and file were always a bunch of racist old cunts. They just don't even need to bother keeping up appearances any more.


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Their current rhetoric on immigration is turning me away from the Tories.
Putting that aside, however, and you get a really curious speech from Mrs May. Talking about using the power of government to achieve social ends, criticising market failures, and addressing inequalities isn't what I'd expect from a hardline Tory leader. Lady Thatcher must be turning in her grave.


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Most of what May says is laudable, but the exact opposite of what their policies are.

"We want to help the poor and mend social division"

*creates grammar schools and abolishes inheritance tax*

The Scottish aren't on the fence!


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Subtle.

But yes, actions count more than words and we now have something to measure her administration against.


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UKIP leadership hopeful Steven Woolfe was taken to hospital following an altercation at a meeting of party MEPs, interim leader Nigel Farage has said.

In a statement he said Mr Woolfe had "subsequently collapsed" and his "condition is serious".


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So he got punched in the face and knocked out?

Should have made sure there was steak, I guess.

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Seems he collapsed sometime later, so possibly quite serious.

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The friendly face of UKIP. Doesn't sound good at all.


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Things I have learnt today - the European commission doesn't trust people not to spill drinks. No drink allowed in the auditorium in this building. I tried to break this rule and got roundly remonstrated by a waiter in a bow tie.

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Things I have learnt today - the European commission doesn't trust people not to spill drinks. No drink allowed in the auditorium in this building. I tried to break this rule and got roundly remonstrated by a waiter in a bow tie.


The upside of Brexit.


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Things I have learnt today - the European commission doesn't trust people not to spill drinks. No drink allowed in the auditorium in this building. I tried to break this rule and got roundly remonstrated by a waiter in a bow tie.

Why do they have waiters if you aren't allowed to have a drink?

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Things I have learnt today - the European commission doesn't trust people not to spill drinks. No drink allowed in the auditorium in this building. I tried to break this rule and got roundly remonstrated by a waiter in a bow tie.

Why do they have waiters if you aren't allowed to have a drink?

Maybe they hold the drink for you and pour it into your mouth? That would be ace!

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The waiters were in the lobby area, which is where we were supposed to consume beverages. I got spied and he chased me into the auditorium

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Ah! Haha, that makes more sense, though Grim...'s way would have been more enjoyable.

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I was trying to find a picture of someone giving wine from a porron to another person, as that's the only way I e ever seen them used, but most pictures on the internet are of people using a porron alone, and that's not nearly as much fun.


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Ah, here is one.

There should totally be porrons at the cottage. There would be (more) carnage.


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Also you're supposed to do it from a far greater distance, otherwise where is the fun?

Anyway, that's what Grim... made me think of.

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Think of Grim..., think of fluids hitting your face.

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Nono, a porron is for wine. You learned about "cumshot".

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Well, that took a turn for the unexpected.

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Well, that took a turn for the unexpected.


I'm now worried that Mr Chris might be in the wrong building.


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Well, that took a turn for the unexpected.


I'm now worried that Mr Chris might be in the wrong building.


I'm now worried that he punched out that UKIP chap.

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Well, that took a turn for the unexpected.


I'm now worried that Mr Chris might be in the wrong building.


I'm now worried that he punched out that UKIP chap.


Well he was in Brussels on the same day as that stabbing incident. Maybe he's on a European rampage.

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According to the guardian it sounds like Woolfe picked a fight with Hookem but his mouth was making promises even his MEP expenses couldn't cash.

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Stuff on the performance of Sterling including this amazing quote

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The currency is now the de facto official opposition to the government's policies


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Stuff on the performance of Sterling including this amazing quote


Thought this was the podcast thread for a minute.


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Yup :)


Sudden rise in the performance of Sterling, but the potential for drop-off soon. :spew:


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And nobody could possibly predict what will happen at the close of trading.

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Anti fracking guy on Today was a bit of a knob.

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Anti fracking guy on Today was a bit of a knob.


I didn't hear that but the Stop the War interview just before 7 didn't really go anywhere and I'm still not certain what their position is other than 'war is bad'. Not sure if it was the fault of the interviewee, the interviewer, or a mixture of both.


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Anti fracking guy on Today was a bit of a knob.

Sounded like he had a proper strop once Mishal cut him off at the end.

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Anti fracking guy on Today was a bit of a knob.

Sounded like he had a proper strop once Mishal cut him off at the end.


Yes, didn't he just?

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Philip Davies MP has been in the local news, again. Twice in fact. Once was for trying to put the brakes on Greenfield development and again on election fraud. Both will be popular in his constituency.

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Council wants residents to clear own snow. Which I won't be doing unless they indemnify me.

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Very good piece from Cracked on why many Americans are still voting for Trump -- and, I believe, very similar reasons to why many Brits voted for Brexit.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-t ... lks-about/


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Very good piece from Cracked on why many Americans are still voting for Trump -- and, I believe, very similar reasons to why many Brits voted for Brexit.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-t ... lks-about/


I could only get halfway through before wanting to incinerate the universe.

Does he ever get to a point? Or is it just that city folk are weird and different, apart from the Republican city folk who are all just like country folk, and Donald Trump is somehow a typical rural chap who just happens to be a massive racist and sexual abuser, which is perfectly in line with being a Christian now, apparently?

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It's also pretty much sunk as a rational reason for voting patterns by the 'if only women voted' results - which show even the heavily rural areas mostly going blue. So it's only the men in rural areas that are misunderstood and not given their beliefs the respect they deserve?

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It's also pretty much sunk as a rational reason for voting patterns by the 'if only women voted' results - which show even the heavily rural areas mostly going blue. So it's only the men in rural areas that are misunderstood and not given their beliefs the respect they deserve?


I don't get how it can even be close to a sensible reason given that the vast majority of the traditional 1% are Republican (though this is slightly shifting at the moment).

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20th Oct for Batley aft Jo Cox death and same date for Witney elections.


Seen lots of small signs for labour candidate but only one for English Democrats. List of candidates:

Corbyn Anti - English Independence;
Tracy Lynn Brabin - Labour Party;
Jack Buckby - Liberty GB;
Richard Charles Edmonds - National Front;
David Furness - British National Party;
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Waqas Ali Khan - Independent;
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Since the EU referendum on June 23, this country has been turned on its head. The latest proof comes from an unlikely – and indeed unwitting – source. The former England football captain, Gary Lineker.

A few days ago on Twitter, Lineker expressed his disappointment at the lack of sympathy some people in Britain were showing to refugees. In some cases, he believed, their attitude was not only heartless but racist.

In return, he received cascades of indignant abuse. A Ukip MEP, Patrick O’Flynn, suggested he should lose his job as presenter of the BBC’s Match of the Day. Then the Sun joined in, by claiming on its front page that “the BBC was under pressure to fire Gary Lineker”. Apparently, some people were so offended by Lineker’s comments that they proposed a boycott of the brand of crisps he advertises. (Walker’s, if you want to join in. Or, indeed, if you want to buy some extra, out of solidarity.)

There, in microcosm, you see how debate has changed in this country. Everyone’s switched sides.

Because, until quite recently, it was the socially conservative who complained that “you can’t say anything nowadays” without causing outrage among the socially liberal. Now, it’s the socially liberal who complain that “you can’t say anything nowadays” without causing outrage among the socially conservative.

It’s fascinating: a complete role reversal. What are the people calling for Lineker to lose his job, after all, if not hyper-sensitive “special snowflakes” who are trying to “no-platform” someone, merely because he expressed an opinion they didn’t like? Can’t he even mention immigration without people jumping down his throat? Aren’t they just shutting down debate about his legitimate concerns, by taking offence and playing the victim card? Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Honestly. It’s political incorrectness gone mad.

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It (the outrage at Lineker's comments) would be funny were it not such a widespread view amongst the British public. It's not as though there weren't out-and-out bigots before the EU referendum, but the result does seem to make them think they can spout their pissant views more openly.

Lineker should just tell them all to fuck off, but I'm sure he's too polite to do so.

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It's weird that my current favourite non-sport journalist works for he bloody Telegraph (Michael Deacon, who penned the above Lineker story and also covered that time Nigel Farage and Bob Geldof had a battle on the Thames).

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Deacon is amazing but you can't mention him without linking to his best work: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/1004 ... Brown.html


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I hadn't realised that was him. Just beautiful.


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I've suddenly realised that I really have no opinion on whether the runway should be built at Heathrow or Gatwick. 'London' Oxford, on the other hand...


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