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Author:  Bamba [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 13:29 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
You have purposefully not corrected [someone somewhere] you spaz, but I know that you know that that's a typo. ;)


I actually just copy and pasted it straight out of your post and never even noticed it was gibberish; my brain must've auto-corrected it during my initial reading of your post.

Saturnalian wrote:
Quick question, since that's not actually Steam (obv.), but is that a download or physical copy? I can't figure it out. :/


Gamer's Gate is download only so it'll definitely be that. They do actually sell stuff that then activates on Steam/Origin/whatever but this isn't one of those so will just be a download from their site.

British Nervoso wrote:
I refuse to buy that as I couldn't get the first game to work, either on PC or Mac partitions. :(


The new one is much newer (of course) and, as I say, has much higher production values so the chances of hassle are hopefully less. I think it uses the same engine as the original so anyone who's concerned could try out the demo of the original game on Steam as a test bed of sorts maybe?
Author:  myp [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 13:31 ]
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I think it's the fact it uses OpenGL and I couldn't get that working. From what I remember it opens up but nothing responds.

It was a pain in the arse, anyway. I don't have the patience to endlessly fiddle around though, so it got binned in the end.
Author:  Bamba [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 13:42 ]
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Secrets of Raetikon looks like it might be interesting. It's certainly pretty enough and I like the idea of an open world explore-y puzzle-y type experience.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 14:43 ]
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That's very pretty with some nice art work, but I couldn't see how it was supposed to be played. Presumably with a mouse...
Author:  Bamba [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 14:48 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
That's very pretty with some nice art work, but I couldn't see how it was supposed to be played. Presumably with a mouse...


The relevant Steam page says it has full controller support. The manual linked from that same page has a section about the controls which recommends a controller but also gives KBAM mappings if you want to use that.
Author:  LewieP [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 14:55 ]
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This is remarkable

http://mobeenfikree.itch.io/we-are-doomed
Author:  Bamba [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 15:07 ]
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LewieP wrote:
This is remarkable

http://mobeenfikree.itch.io/we-are-doomed


Score-chasing neon shooter; it doesn't seem all that remarkable?
Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 15:29 ]
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Bamba wrote:
LewieP wrote:
This is remarkable

http://mobeenfikree.itch.io/we-are-doomed


Score-chasing neon shooter; it doesn't seem all that remarkable?


Generally my tastes in shooters is very close to Lewie's so i'll check this out later tonight :-)
Author:  LewieP [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 16:19 ]
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It's just really well put together, and it's only a couple of quid.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 22:32 ]
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It's strange how you can be playing a game - sorta enjoying it, sorta wondering what it's about, sorta thinking that you're going through the motions - when something happens and you're thinking "This isn't going to end well for these badgers, is it?"

Shelter is a strange, clunky game.

And short. I'm not sure it lasted an hour.

It's basically one of those art vs. game things, right?

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Was I upset when the badger got washed away? No. Did I go looking for him? You bet your ass I did.

And all because I'd spent 20 minutes finding food for the little buggers to eat. 20 minutes work literally washed away in a moment.

And then.

I very rarely say things out loud to myself when I'm at home on my own but I did hear myself say "Oh jesus, I've left two of them to burn to death". Only to see two baby badger running out of the burning bush with puffs of baby smoke trailing behind them. It was a good moment.

But, let's face it, it's a bit boring really. And if you don't like animals you'll probably just start laughing at the bleakness of it; a bleakness that you can't emphasise with because you're obviously a deranged sociopath. You might feel, if you're a normal animal loving person like me (and therefore normal), that the end was sad but, let's face it, we've seen worse on any wildlife programme.

I wanted this to be the type of 'game' that could provide a narrative and feeling that only a videogame can do, but after the credits had shuffled along and the post-game reveal was, um, revealed I was left thinking that, yes, animals kill animals for food - obviously - and that I'd seen more affecting stuff from an Attenborough documentary.

I'm glad it was as short as it was as there wasn't enough game in it to tell a story that, one day, only a videogame could tell.

About badgers.
Author:  Pod [ Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:50 ]
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How much did your eyes melt from the badger-o-vision?
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:37 ]
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I quite liked the pastel colours and strange blankets of foliage.

I thought it suited the game extremely well; a juxtoposition of kiddie art and the brutal nature of, um, nature if you like. It was just a bit ropey and the camera was rubbish.

I couldn't understand why they couldn't have made it gamepad compatible either. It only used two buttons. Three if you count the sneak action, which I don't, cause there was never a time when you had to use it. It didn't even feature in the brief tutorial, to my recollection!
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Apr 11, 2014 16:33 ]
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Papers Please Purchased.
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Apr 11, 2014 17:41 ]
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I heard about this one ages and it looks interesting if repetitive in it's current form. Viscera Cleanup Detail:


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014- ... ess-review
Author:  myp [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 13:27 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Papers Please Purchased.

You will love it!
Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 23:14 ]
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British Nervoso wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Papers Please Purchased.

You will love it!


This is utterly brilliant. Like, seriously good. I do love it.
Author:  LewieP [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 23:42 ]
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Yeah it is the best game.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 23:55 ]
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And now I have Surgeon Simulator 2013 for dirt-cheaps from Humble Bumble. PC gaming is the tits.
Author:  Pod [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:43 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
And now I have Surgeon Simulator 2013 for dirt-cheaps from Humble Bumble. PC gaming is the tits.


Let me know how many minutes of time Surgeon Simulator occupies you for. I've not played it, but I keep putting off buying it because I think I'll play it for 2 minutes before going "is that all?"
Author:  myp [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:19 ]
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Pod wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
And now I have Surgeon Simulator 2013 for dirt-cheaps from Humble Bumble. PC gaming is the tits.


Let me know how many minutes of time Surgeon Simulator occupies you for. I've not played it, but I keep putting off buying it because I think I'll play it for 2 minutes before going "is that all?"

It's tough as nails, but I keep going back, thinking I'll one day perform a successful operation.
Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed Apr 16, 2014 16:42 ]
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Its been part of many bundles but if your a new PC user and have not picked it up you can get "The Binding of Isaac" for 80p from greenmangaming :

http://savygamer.co.uk/2014/04/16/the-b ... pcmac-80p/

Quote:
When Isaac’s mother starts hearing the voice of God demanding a sacrifice be made to prove her faith, Isaac escapes into the basement facing droves of deranged enemies, lost brothers and sisters, his fears, and eventually his mother.

The Binding of Isaac is a randomly generated action RPG shooter with heavy Rogue-like elements. Following Isaac on his journey players will find bizarre treasures that change Isaac’s form giving him super human abilities and enabling him to fight off droves of mysterious creatures, discover secrets and fight his way to safety.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Apr 16, 2014 17:24 ]
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"I" am a new PC gamer!

This is from the Super Meat guys, isn't it?
Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed Apr 16, 2014 17:30 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
"I" am a new PC gamer!

This is from the Super Meat guys, isn't it?


Correct

You can also pay 60p for "The Basement collection" from them :

http://savygamer.co.uk/2014/04/16/the-b ... mac-60p-2/

Quote:
The Basement Collection is a compilation of 9 award winning indie games by Edmund McMillen, creator of Super Meat Boy and The Binding of Isaac. All of the games featured in the collection have been revamped and updated, featuring bonus chapters, new music, art and other extras.

The Basement Collection includes:

Aether (an exploration adventure game)
Time Fcuk (a dark puzzle game)
Spewer (a physics based platformer)
Meat Boy (the super meat boy prototype)
Grey Matter (an anti shooter)
Coil (an experimental game)
Triachnid (a physics based spider sim)
The collection also features 2 secret unlockable games and tons of unlockable comics, sketch books and even never before scene stock footage from Indie Game: The Movie.


And if you want more meat its only £2.60 : http://savygamer.co.uk/2014/04/16/super ... inux-2-60/
Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 16, 2014 17:42 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
"I" am a new PC gamer!

This is from the Super Meat guys, isn't it?


It is. Or at least one of them.

I wouldn't say it's as good, mainly as the controls aren't anywhere near as nice.
Author:  Bamba [ Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:52 ]
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I was interested in Secrets of Raetikon because I really enjoyed And Yet It Moves and had heard quite a bit of chat about Raetikon. That EG review though makes it sounds like they've bogged what could have been a brilliant exploratory experience down in bullshit 'combat' and needless frustration so I'll pass.
Author:  Bamba [ Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:09 ]
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Fract OSC is a fantastic sounding explore-em-up with a sinister undertone and lovely aesthetic. It's definitely going on The List for me.
Author:  zaphod79 [ Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:25 ]
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Again not indie related but still a bargain - Amazon.com have Titanfall on PC reduced to $37 which is about £22

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DB9JYFY

To buy you need a US address associated with your amazon account but they dont send anything there (you just get a code to punch into Origin) - I'd suggest signing up for Borderlinx to get a valid US address but you can just as easily put anything you like in there as long as its valid.
Author:  myp [ Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:37 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Fract OSC is a fantastic sounding explore-em-up with a sinister undertone and lovely aesthetic. It's definitely going on The List for me.

Ta!
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Apr 25, 2014 14:06 ]
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Lifeless Planet looks gorgeous and is all explore-y and mysterious which, with it's cold war sci-fi hook, is more than enough to grab my interest straight away. It's only in early access right now so fuck actually paying for it but I'll be keeping an eye on it to see if it lives up to it's promise.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 21:59 ]
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I've been out most of the day and all I want to do is play 'Papers, Please' some more.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 23:44 ]
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Quick word on Element4l:

Firstly, the name of the game is dreadful. Geez.
Secondly, it's 360 controller compatible. Nice.
Third, it's about keeping the momentum up rather than a puzzle game in the style of that, um, puzzle game from the Amiga days

(...bloody hell, what was that called... Oh, someone will know it. You played a blob and went through liquid, solid, gas etc. Remember? "Gas" was a cloud with a pair of eyes. It was pretty "ok" from what I remember of it. I think there was a demo on Amiga Power. Honestly, unless you know it, I doubt there much chance that you'll remember the name of the game. Maybe something like, Elements... No, that's this game...)

Anyway! You change state's and try and get the momentum going to zoom around the environments. It starts off fairly difficult and gets worse. I've just finished Part 1 and the last level took me 11 minutes. I bet if you did it in one go it'd take about 60 seconds or less. It's not difficult because you can't figure out what you're supposed to be doing; it's difficult because you can't do what you know you're supposed to be doing. Timing is everything to get the speed up and it only takes one wrong nudge to fuck it up and it's back to the checkpoint (which are fairly generous it must be said).

It's ok, I guess. Nothing to get too excited about. I'll continue to see if it gets any more exciting but it's too difficult to get a good rhythm and too easy for a puzzle game (hell, you can press H at any time and it'll show you what you should be doing) The plonky music is plonky enough although it's too New-Age-hippy for my liking. You might as well wedge a wind chime into your inner ear.

And although there's some text on screen to say things to try and bring the world to life (and in that lovely thin font that people are so fond of using these days) it fails miserably to inject any personality unlike, say, Thomas was Alone did with its terrific narrative.

So a summary for the back of the virtual box could go like this:

"Element4AIL more like" AHAHAHAHAHA.

*cough*
Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 0:46 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Third, it's about keeping the momentum up rather than a puzzle game in the style of that, um, puzzle game from the Amiga days

(...bloody hell, what was that called... Oh, someone will know it. You played a blob and went through liquid, solid, gas etc. Remember? "Gas" was a cloud with a pair of eyes. It was pretty "ok" from what I remember of it. I think there was a demo on Amiga Power. Honestly, unless you know it, I doubt there much chance that you'll remember the name of the game. Maybe something like, Elements... No, that's this game...)

Morph (Demo was Metamorphosis)?
Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:07 ]
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Excellent remembering skillz!
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:22 ]
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Company of Heroes 2 was free over the weekend. But, er, now it isn't. Sorry!
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu May 01, 2014 22:49 ]
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PAPERS, PLEASE.

4 hrs, 25 mins
292 processed
158 approved
76 denied
45 detained
40 citations (!)

I ended the month being executed for helping out The Order. Sucked into a life of crime. Tch, aye.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu May 01, 2014 22:50 ]
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I bloody loved it, by the way. Absolutely awesome game and I can understand why it got the praise it did. I think I managed to see 7 endings all being told.
Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu May 01, 2014 22:57 ]
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Latest humble weekly bundle is up but i've basically got them all already

https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly

Pay what you want ($1 minimum for steam keys) for

Awesomenauts
Sanctum 2
Wanderlust: Rebirth

Pay a minimum of $6 for the above plus

Rocketbirds: Hardboiled Chicken
Orcs Must Die! 2 Complete Pack
Aces Wild: Manic Brawling Action!

Pay a minimum of $10 for the above plus

Risk of Rain
Author:  DavPaz [ Fri May 02, 2014 23:27 ]
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I ain't no graphics whore, but damn, this looks nice.

https://imgur.com/a/SWMPo
Author:  Pod [ Sat May 03, 2014 1:22 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I ain't no graphics whore, but damn, this looks nice.

https://imgur.com/a/SWMPo


Some of them look like purdy paintings.
Author:  Satsuma [ Tue May 06, 2014 22:07 ]
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I've been playing Cave Story+ which is like one of those old school, sorry "Skool", Master System platform games. It's real nice so far and is reet challenging: death means back to the last save point you saved at, and death is around every corner from the smallest Japanese Blue blob to a spinning one hit kill blade. And it seems as though something is bubbling under the surface in the story department, so fingers crossed it all gets weird and is actually about chemical testing on animals or something to really mess with my head at the end. Or it might just be a colourful platformer about talking rabbits. We'll see.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue May 06, 2014 23:50 ]
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I played the original way way back in 2006 or something.

For whatever reason, the translation patch didn't work so had no idea what was going on in the story, and ended up a little stuck on occasion as a consequence. Despite that, great little game and one I have replayed man many times*(although as a gripe, I'd much rather you could skip the text. Particularly when you're fighting the same boss for the nth time and they're spouting gibberish at you)

May be one of the factors that caused me to learn the language.

* -
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Although I've never had the 'true' ending, I've got up to the secret final boss, but the multi part boss after a long slog has generally been too much for me. The normal final boss was tricky enough
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun May 11, 2014 13:58 ]
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Goddamn, Cave Story+ is hard. I'm struggling with the giant roller skating robot thing. Y'know, that huge thing that slides back and forth and release a crap load of missiles that swirl around you before homing in. Other than that, this is real nice.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun May 11, 2014 14:04 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Goddamn, Cave Story+ is hard. I'm struggling with the giant roller skating robot thing. Y'know, that huge thing that slides back and forth and release a crap load of missiles that swirl around you before homing in. Other than that, this is real nice.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

T'is the first of the bastard hard bosses in the game.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun May 11, 2014 14:39 ]
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Am I far from the end yet cause I was thinking about picking up that Antichamber game? I thought my PC needed to stretch it's legs just a little bit with all these big pixel games I've been playing.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun May 11, 2014 14:45 ]
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I tell you what I started and hated instantly:

Mutant Mudds Deluxe - a very very dull PD platformer. Utterly bereft of any interesting characteristics.

Puzzle Bots - a very ropey looking Point n Click game that's terribly boring. Miniature robots escape a professors laboratory and go on an adventure! Navigate a kitchen table! Navigate across a microwave! Sounds... Sounds... it's probably as exciting as that sounds.

Deleted both of these but since they were from the humble bumble I haven't really lost anything.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun May 11, 2014 15:19 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Am I far from the end yet cause I was thinking about picking up that Antichamber game? I thought my PC needed to stretch it's legs just a little bit with all these big pixel games I've been playing.


Mmm, Hard to say, About 2/3rds I'd guess.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun May 11, 2014 22:07 ]
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I quite like Antichamber but it's lacking the Portal-style something to make progression more interesting. It's still very good though and I don't really like puzzle games that much.
Author:  RuySan [ Mon May 12, 2014 10:20 ]
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I really really hated Cave Story +. I usually like metroidvanias, but what the Castlevania games did well, CS+ did exactly the opposite.

I've been going through a point and click phase lately. Now i'm playing a Quest for Glory kind of tribute game "Heroine's Quest". Very good.

Also been playing Machinarium with my wife, and it's absolutely lovely.
Author:  Satsuma [ Mon May 12, 2014 22:31 ]
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RuySan wrote:
I really really hated Cave Story +. I usually like metroidvanias, but what the Castlevania games did well, CS+ did exactly the opposite.


I don't think it's big enough to be a metroidvanias game. Didn't it start out as a flash game or am I remembering this wrong? Anyway, it's seemed quite linear to me but with the added annoyance of some backtracking.

RuySan wrote:
Also been playing Machinarium with my wife, and it's absolutely lovely.


I bloody loved this. A lot. I did fail when I got to the water fountain area though where it got a bit too abstract for my liking and I had to peak at a wiki. And then a couple more times after that. Yes, I was ashamed. It didn't ruin my enjoyment though (if anything I needed to move it along rather than keep clicking on everything in site lest I get too frustrated) as it was thoroughly entertaining. Great little game. It's about £2 on humble bumble I think or that GOG thing.
Author:  RuySan [ Tue May 13, 2014 10:47 ]
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Point and click and adventures are very hard to do well, but Machinarium manages to have some brilliant puzzles.

I also finished The Whispered World recently, and also loved it. There are some illogical puzzles, but some of the item interactions responses are so funny that i solved many puzzles just by doing that, like combining a bear paw with dentures.

Concerning Cave Story:
- Too much backtracking. I know this is a staple of the genre, but in Castlevania at least it's possible to gain loot and levels this way to make up for it.
- Awful boss fights. Most bosses just jump all over the place and the fights are done almost immeadietaly. Also compare it to Castlevania's great boss fights.
- The basic mechanics felt all wrong. Annoying jumping sections and boring combat.
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