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Author:  Trooper [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:01 ]
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http://gizmodo.com/moto-360-battery-lif ... 1631839974

More reports of the battery actually being "ok"

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 19:31 ]
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So, Apple Watch. Am I alone in thinking it's pretty ugly?

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 19:33 ]
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Image

Author:  TheCookie197 [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 19:34 ]
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Grim... wrote:
So, Apple Watch. Am I alone in thinking it's pretty ugly?


No.

It looks like an iPad nano with a strap attached to it!
And whats the point in the dial thing?

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 19:44 ]
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Grim... wrote:
So, Apple Watch. Am I alone in thinking it's pretty ugly?


Heh, i posted the same on twitter. It'll live and die by the app integration, it's just shame to get the apps you need to have the ugly, expensive, useless scrollwheeled for right handed wearing, watch to go with them.

Author:  TheCookie197 [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 19:45 ]
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Have they announced a price for it yet?

[Edit] from someone commenting on the show while they are there: "It will cost $349 (ouch) and will be available from early 2015"
So... probably about £300-350 here then?

Author:  myp [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 20:01 ]
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Works with the 5, so I don't have to get a new phone. I'm making money here.

Author:  myp [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 20:24 ]
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I actually think it looks quite nice. Well, some of them. There's a lot of different bands and finishes.

http://www.apple.com/uk/watch/design/

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 20:37 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Image

Not to be bought by anyone with trypophobia

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 20:44 ]
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After seeing the Moto, I disagree with any watch device that displays its watch credentials with a round clockface on a square screen.

Anyway, I'm waiting for the Surface Watch. Announced in 3 years, released in 4. If they get moving quickly.

Author:  myp [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 20:44 ]
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Decided I want the 42mm Space Grey Aluminium Case with Black Sport Band.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 21:35 ]
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I made a thing

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Author:  Satsuma [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 21:38 ]
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I've been waiting for a decent game of Hex - It's just like when the 360 was released!

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 21:45 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Image

Not to be bought by anyone with trypophobia

Didn't know I had that until I googled it. Ick. There was an image years ago of a breast overlaid with some seed pod of some kind. It freaked me out for weeks. Now I have a name for it.

Author:  markg [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 22:12 ]
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Grim... wrote:
So, Apple Watch. Am I alone in thinking it's pretty ugly?

Yeah, I guess current battery technology means they're doomed to be a bit fat and bulbous looking. No way to make a nice svelte design when there's nowhere to flatten the battery out to hide it. The only time these monstrosities will be deemed cool is in thirty years time when future hipsters are wearing them ironically.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 22:26 ]
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Yet weirdly smartwatches are thinner than a lot of normal watches, they just look thicker for some reason.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 22:43 ]
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So the Apple Watch then...

Positives:
It'll most likely "just work".
The app support will be excellent.
It should give Android Wear some competition and make them raise their game.

Negatives:
Square.
Bulbous.
Expensive.
Pointless cock and balls pic app.
Right wrist wearers could be screwed.
Mickey mouse watch faces.
Animated fucking emojis.

Seriously, what the fuck is with all the random childish shit, it's a very un-apple device, both in hardware and software, and they really need to stop trying to claim they have invented the concept of a scroll wheel...

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 22:45 ]
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Grim... wrote:
So, Apple Watch. Am I alone in thinking it's pretty ugly?

No.

Although I think that of all the smartwatches. I'm generally a fan of fairly traditional and not huge.

Author:  TheCookie197 [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 23:27 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Grim... wrote:
So, Apple Watch. Am I alone in thinking it's pretty ugly?

No.

Although I think that of all the smartwatches. I'm generally a fan of fairly traditional and not huge.


Huge as in the actual face (screen) of the watch?

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 23:28 ]
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In fairness Dave, you do have somewhat slender wrists.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 23:45 ]
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So I may have just done a little pre-ordering.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00NBU1OAQ/

Author:  TheCookie197 [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 23:49 ]
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"SIM-free smartphone" are android wear things stand alone? Can you actually put a sim in them? I was under the impression that they had to be paired to a Android phone.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 23:59 ]
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Cookie197 wrote:
"SIM-free smartphone" are android wear things stand alone? Can you actually put a sim in them? I was under the impression that they had to be paired to a Android phone.

No. No. Yes.

Author:  TheCookie197 [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 0:02 ]
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M'kay, thanks.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 0:12 ]
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Grim... wrote:
So I may have just done a little pre-ordering.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00NBU1OAQ/


Heh, me too :)

Author:  myp [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:34 ]
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Grim... wrote:
So I may have just done a little pre-ordering.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00NBU1OAQ/

Why is no one complaining about this one for wearing on your right wrist? Seems to be the same problem to me.

In fact, the watch I'm wearing now is the same...

Author:  myp [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:40 ]
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Trooper wrote:
So the Apple Watch then...

Positives:
It'll most likely "just work".
The app support will be excellent.
It should give Android Wear some competition and make them raise their game.

Negatives:
Square.
Bulbous.
Expensive.
Pointless cock and balls pic app.
Right wrist wearers could be screwed.
Mickey mouse watch faces.
Animated fucking emojis.

Seriously, what the fuck is with all the random childish shit, it's a very un-apple device, both in hardware and software, and they really need to stop trying to claim they have invented the concept of a scroll wheel...

Most of your negatives there are either subjective, optional or apply to all smart watches. You don't HAVE to have a Mickey Mouse watch face or use the emojis. It's a pretty niche product - in order to sell enough of these they'll have to appeal to a broad subset of people.

Author:  Malc [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:57 ]
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Can you not just rotate (either) smart watch through 180 degrees? Then it will be fine for lefties?

Malc

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:11 ]
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Malc wrote:
Can you not just rotate (either) smart watch through 180 degrees? Then it will be fine for lefties?

Malc

You can rotate the 360 and put it on either wrist. I assume you'll be able to do the same with the aWatch.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:14 ]
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American Nervoso wrote:
Grim... wrote:
So I may have just done a little pre-ordering.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00NBU1OAQ/

Why is no one complaining about this one for wearing on your right wrist? Seems to be the same problem to me.

In fact, the watch I'm wearing now is the same...


Because the button on the 360 is just a button that you click once in a while. The scroll wheel on the iWatch seems to be an integral part of the UI and you'll be using it a lot.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:15 ]
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American Nervoso wrote:
Trooper wrote:
So the Apple Watch then...

Positives:
It'll most likely "just work".
The app support will be excellent.
It should give Android Wear some competition and make them raise their game.

Negatives:
Square.
Bulbous.
Expensive.
Pointless cock and balls pic app.
Right wrist wearers could be screwed.
Mickey mouse watch faces.
Animated fucking emojis.

Seriously, what the fuck is with all the random childish shit, it's a very un-apple device, both in hardware and software, and they really need to stop trying to claim they have invented the concept of a scroll wheel...

Most of your negatives there are either subjective, optional or apply to all smart watches. You don't HAVE to have a Mickey Mouse watch face or use the emojis. It's a pretty niche product - in order to sell enough of these they'll have to appeal to a broad subset of people.


Well, yes, it's the subjective that is the differentiator, being as the underlying functionality is likely to be very similar across all smart watches.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:22 ]
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http://www.reconinstruments.com/products/jet/

Oh.my.metrics on the move!

Author:  myp [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:22 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Because the button on the 360 is just a button that you click once in a while. The scroll wheel on the iWatch seems to be an integral part of the UI and you'll be using it a lot.

Really? I read it's for scrolling and zooming. It does have a touch screen after all. Will have to wait for the reviews, I guess.

I'm still getting one because I can't justify upgrading to the 6 now the watch works with the 5. Circular logic or what?

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:23 ]
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MrsA said the next step was chips in your head. Looks like I am watch less for the foreseeable.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:08 ]
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If BlackBerry don't milk the shit out of that scroll wheel in their advertising they're doing something badly wrong.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 16:16 ]
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The whole watch debate is a moot point anyway. I really hope the Apple Watch takes off, regardless of whether I like it or not, as that would kickstart a market that I want to succeed as I like the idea of smartwatches.
However, comparing the Android swartwatches against the Apple Watch is a little pointless. I very much doubt people will change their phone ecosystem just for the watch, so they will buy the watch that goes with their phone choice. Android smartwatches and the Apple Watch just aren't direct competitors at the moment, you can't use an Apple Watch with Android and vice versa.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 16:22 ]
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Would it be possible to do a watch that works with both android and apple?

Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 16:26 ]
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I like the idea of having pocket watches like some 17th century gent. Y'know, you have it in your pocket and then you get it out when you want to know the time. Maybe next year, aye?

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 16:33 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Would it be possible to do a watch that works with both android and apple?


Technically one already exists in the shape of the Pebble, but my understanding is that it's less functional when paired with an iOS device because it's so much more locked down.

To have true parity of functionality it would need Apple themselves to create the device because only they can hook into iOS properly, and obviously they could hook into Android the same as anyone else with it being 'open'. So, technically possible; but utterly, utterly improbable.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 16:38 ]
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2461981,00.asp

This looks like it does both, or will do

Author:  Cras [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 17:06 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2461981,00.asp

This looks like it does both, or will do


To a very limited extent. It talks to an app on the phone not the OS, so will have no access to any system level functions, and will as such be entirely useless.

Author:  markg [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 20:39 ]
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Intrigued by this offering from DealExtreme:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwa ... t-t2864444

Three week battery life, waterproof to fifty metres, CHEAP and it looks no more ugly than the Apple thing.

I think this sort of thing is going to be a problem for the Apple Watch and it's current price. Even to sell one to all the sort of people who only buy genuine Apple cables and stuff I reckon it needs to be half the price.

I could be way off but I think it's a very niche product. Once they have sold them to the sort of pillocks who will queue up to buy them and a few gadget geeks I don't reckon the appeal is going to be very wide.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Wed Sep 10, 2014 20:43 ]
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It's okay, they'll just release another one which is almost identical, but tells the time.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:39 ]
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Hmmmm..... The Garmin Fenix 2. Available for under £300, lasts more than a day, has GPS built in, shows notifications from your phone. It even tells the time!

http://ocgh.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/lo ... -2-review/
http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/19/the-ga ... an-future/

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:55 ]
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Samsung Gear S is coming in October too, for £239...

http://mobile.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-produ ... pre-order/

It's a bit of a behemoth, but it's a full phone on your wrist...

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 15:52 ]
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Has that got a camera on the back?
Image

Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 15:53 ]
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Probably the heart rate monitor, if it works the same way the phone apps do.

Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 15:54 ]
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It's also not a phone from what I can gather, it has mobile connectivity to handle all the notifications etc without needing a phone nearby but I can't see any mention of the ability to actually make calls.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 16:01 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Hmmmm..... The Garmin Fenix 2. Available for under £300, lasts more than a day, has GPS built in, shows notifications from your phone. It even tells the time!

http://ocgh.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/lo ... -2-review/
http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/19/the-ga ... an-future/


I could be interested in one next year, I will have to step my training up..

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Sep 11, 2014 17:09 ]
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markg wrote:
It's also not a phone from what I can gather, it has mobile connectivity to handle all the notifications etc without needing a phone nearby but I can't see any mention of the ability to actually make calls.


It's totally a phone :)

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