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Yeah I saw that, and that's part of what has sparked the "mine isn't anywhere close to as bad as that" debate on reddit.

They clearly explain that's not a actual use case (it just a comparison thing), so it's not surprising.

True, but it was just the spark. This is the thread.

http://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comment ... ly_inside/

With a few comments like this in it:
"This is my first day with mine and so far I've gotten about 100 alerts today, messed around with music controls and navigated for about 15 mins, used the voice controls a few times and right now I'm sitting at 35% at 11 hours use."
Which doesn't tally with comments like this:
"I have no idea how you are getting that kind of battery life. Just doing normal shit I get maybe 10 hours. No ambient screen. And I'm not even messing with it a lot. As someone who came from a pebble I don't feel the need to mess with it a ton. What exactly are your settings?"

It's all a bit weird. I'm sure it will all clear up before it's released in the UK anyway, as to whether it is actually a useable amount of battery.

HP are about to launch one. You can register for interest.

What choices of strap are there? Brown, red and barbecue?

Nom nom

Do we register with you, or..?

Store.hp.com. I think.

I googled hp smart watch

Would rather gargle Craster's spunk.

You say that about everything, though.

http://gizmodo.com/moto-360-battery-lif ... 1631839974

More reports of the battery actually being "ok"

So, Apple Watch. Am I alone in thinking it's pretty ugly?

No.

It looks like an iPad nano with a strap attached to it!
And whats the point in the dial thing?

Heh, i posted the same on twitter. It'll live and die by the app integration, it's just shame to get the apps you need to have the ugly, expensive, useless scrollwheeled for right handed wearing, watch to go with them.

Have they announced a price for it yet?

[Edit] from someone commenting on the show while they are there: "It will cost $349 (ouch) and will be available from early 2015"
So... probably about £300-350 here then?

Works with the 5, so I don't have to get a new phone. I'm making money here.

I actually think it looks quite nice. Well, some of them. There's a lot of different bands and finishes.

http://www.apple.com/uk/watch/design/

Not to be bought by anyone with trypophobia

After seeing the Moto, I disagree with any watch device that displays its watch credentials with a round clockface on a square screen.

Anyway, I'm waiting for the Surface Watch. Announced in 3 years, released in 4. If they get moving quickly.

Decided I want the 42mm Space Grey Aluminium Case with Black Sport Band.

I made a thing

I've been waiting for a decent game of Hex - It's just like when the 360 was released!

Didn't know I had that until I googled it. Ick. There was an image years ago of a breast overlaid with some seed pod of some kind. It freaked me out for weeks. Now I have a name for it.

Yeah, I guess current battery technology means they're doomed to be a bit fat and bulbous looking. No way to make a nice svelte design when there's nowhere to flatten the battery out to hide it. The only time these monstrosities will be deemed cool is in thirty years time when future hipsters are wearing them ironically.

Yet weirdly smartwatches are thinner than a lot of normal watches, they just look thicker for some reason.

So the Apple Watch then...

Positives:
It'll most likely "just work".
The app support will be excellent.
It should give Android Wear some competition and make them raise their game.

Negatives:
Square.
Bulbous.
Expensive.
Pointless cock and balls pic app.
Right wrist wearers could be screwed.
Mickey mouse watch faces.
Animated fucking emojis.

Seriously, what the fuck is with all the random childish shit, it's a very un-apple device, both in hardware and software, and they really need to stop trying to claim they have invented the concept of a scroll wheel...

No.

Although I think that of all the smartwatches. I'm generally a fan of fairly traditional and not huge.

Huge as in the actual face (screen) of the watch?

In fairness Dave, you do have somewhat slender wrists.

So I may have just done a little pre-ordering.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00NBU1OAQ/

"SIM-free smartphone" are android wear things stand alone? Can you actually put a sim in them? I was under the impression that they had to be paired to a Android phone.

No. No. Yes.

M'kay, thanks.

Heh, me too

Why is no one complaining about this one for wearing on your right wrist? Seems to be the same problem to me.

In fact, the watch I'm wearing now is the same...

Most of your negatives there are either subjective, optional or apply to all smart watches. You don't HAVE to have a Mickey Mouse watch face or use the emojis. It's a pretty niche product - in order to sell enough of these they'll have to appeal to a broad subset of people.

Can you not just rotate (either) smart watch through 180 degrees? Then it will be fine for lefties?

Malc

You can rotate the 360 and put it on either wrist. I assume you'll be able to do the same with the aWatch.

Because the button on the 360 is just a button that you click once in a while. The scroll wheel on the iWatch seems to be an integral part of the UI and you'll be using it a lot.

Well, yes, it's the subjective that is the differentiator, being as the underlying functionality is likely to be very similar across all smart watches.

http://www.reconinstruments.com/products/jet/

Oh.my.metrics on the move!

Really? I read it's for scrolling and zooming. It does have a touch screen after all. Will have to wait for the reviews, I guess.

I'm still getting one because I can't justify upgrading to the 6 now the watch works with the 5. Circular logic or what?

MrsA said the next step was chips in your head. Looks like I am watch less for the foreseeable.

If BlackBerry don't milk the shit out of that scroll wheel in their advertising they're doing something badly wrong.

The whole watch debate is a moot point anyway. I really hope the Apple Watch takes off, regardless of whether I like it or not, as that would kickstart a market that I want to succeed as I like the idea of smartwatches.
However, comparing the Android swartwatches against the Apple Watch is a little pointless. I very much doubt people will change their phone ecosystem just for the watch, so they will buy the watch that goes with their phone choice. Android smartwatches and the Apple Watch just aren't direct competitors at the moment, you can't use an Apple Watch with Android and vice versa.

Would it be possible to do a watch that works with both android and apple?

I like the idea of having pocket watches like some 17th century gent. Y'know, you have it in your pocket and then you get it out when you want to know the time. Maybe next year, aye?

Technically one already exists in the shape of the Pebble, but my understanding is that it's less functional when paired with an iOS device because it's so much more locked down.

To have true parity of functionality it would need Apple themselves to create the device because only they can hook into iOS properly, and obviously they could hook into Android the same as anyone else with it being 'open'. So, technically possible; but utterly, utterly improbable.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2461981,00.asp

This looks like it does both, or will do