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Which sackless idiots complained about this?

TINY TINA IS RACIALIST!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... -of-racism

I hope they tell them to fuck off and make Tiny Tina the main character in Borderlands 3.

Oh my.

I'm not normally one for comically large breastages, but I might make an exception there.

I read the article and though "What the holy royal FUCK?". It's not as if it's Jar Jar Binks - it's proper funny is what it is. Nothing more nothing less.

I'm giving Borderlands 2 a rest now until some DLC comes out that raises the level cap. Killing stuff and not seeing the XP numbers is somehow less satsfying.

I've not hit 50 yet but I am 48, and I'm wondering how I'll feel about it all once I know there are no more levels coming, no more talent points to spend, no higher level weapons to come and so on. Plus of course, watching the XP bar move along is a compelling reward mechanism in and of itself.

In WoW there's a whole new game starts at the level cap, as you start to gear up your character for dungeons and heroic dungeons and raiding, get your professions maxed out, go for reputation with the factions to unlock gear and enchants and, well, literally a whole new game to start.

Incidentally Trousers, if you really like BL2 (and you obviously do), don't be afraid to give WoW a go - they do have an awful lot in common. Certainly if you find yourself with time to kill in hotel rooms on a regular basis, and you have an internet connection - WoW could be ideal. It'll also run nicely on any reasonably modern laptop.

FeeX

I'm giving a rest for now as well. I've gone back to the original Borderlands and am hatefully grinding through some of the DLC for that.
Incidentally, Randy Pitchford seemed to indicate on twitter recently that a level cap raise might be a while off yet, sadly.

Don't they just change a number in a config file from 50 to 60?

I returned to the main campaign a few days ago, I'm a way into the Hammerlock DLC (Chapter 4 IIRC) but I've decided to leave the rest of it for the level cap increase. In the meantime I will just finish my main campaign TVHM playthrough, and then mop up ALL THE QUESTS. I have it in my head to do every single quest in the entire game.

Dinged 50 last night but was quite happy to carry on playing, didn't miss the increasing XP bar as much as I thought I would, plus it seems to tune weapon/item drops, quest rewards and vendors to 48-50 immediately, so a nice opportunity to get tooled up.

I must retract my earlier statement about stamping all over it though, the fight up to that bit where you have to blow up the guy's chopper to get him to come down the lift so you can get up to the top and have the Slabs pick up all the explosives, was particularly tough.

At one point I was wedged between threshers at the entrance side of the camp, and all the baddies in the camp on the other. Much running away and inventive use of all my arsenal was called for. Died a few times too, loads of second winds. Oh yes, and fucking three or four Buzzards at once plus all the bastards on the ground, which was nice.

My current favourite weapon is an absolutely insane L48 blue Torgue (explosive!) shotgun that uses three bullets per shot and only has a mag size of 7. With the mag size penalty from the ANARCHY tree that reduces to 6, although that makes no difference as it's still just two shots per mag with either 7 or 6 mag size.

The damage is proper mental, it seems to fire about seven explosive shells per shot, with a decent number of anarchy stacks (75+ or so), it basically two shots fucking anything, even Super Badasses. The trick of course is getting close enough to them to use the bloody thing, although Deathtrap is very handy to distract their attention.

Possibly the most glorious gunplay of any game - ever.

I'm having serious problems killing a SUPER BADASS CONSTRUCTOR.

After several VERY FUCKING EXPENSIVE DEATHS the Hyperion reconstructor thing that you respawn at says to me sarcastically:

'So, how are things?'

Still, that big fucking Saturn bastard dropped this.

Heh. Somebody on Twitter asked Pitchford that very question. He was... rather unimpressed, as apparently they have to go back and re-tweak the entire game for some reason.

Are they going to wait for the next DLC to increase the level cap? That would appear to make the most sense at this stage.

I'm hoping that for Borderlands 3 they put in a proper end game, rather than just a handful of 'Invincible' bosses.

I was blasting away through the main campaign at Level 50 last night, of course the good thing about being at the level cap is you don't outgrow your best weapons, so as I'm getting good drops more and more of my arsenal is L48-L50 blues, purples and oranges.

£14.99 on Steam for the next three days.

If you are yet to play BL2 and you have any sort of half-decent PC, you really should get this.

I'd put it in my Top Ten Games Ever list, no doubt.

Finished TVHM last night.

The Handsome Jack fight is quite a bit harder in TVHM, (loads of adds and he has a few extra tricks up his sleeve too), had about four second winds but killed him on the first attempt, helped by the fact I had 150 stacks of Anarchy when I got there.

I'd also done a three-tree hyrbrid build by then to take advantage of a really nice L50 purple mod, which had a total 11 free talent points in it across all three trees. Due to the freebies it was a very 'Deathtrap focused' build, giving him mega-damage, extra health and a very quick cooldown (both my relic and mod were reducing his cooldown time). It did however mean that when he was on cooldown I was pretty much reduced to just running away and hiding somewhere.

The Warrior fight was a different kettle of fish, I had a couple of goes at doing it properly but without any meaningful Anarchy stacks my damage was woeful and I died three times on the trot.

As such I killed him the cheaty way, pinging him from outside the arena with a variety of weapons. He dropped a load of shit unfortunately.

All that's left now is mopping up all the quests I left behind, and then waiting for the level cap increase to do Hammerlock.

SHIFT codes up on the Gearbox Twitter feed for five (count 'em!) Golden Keys - active this weekend only.

Opening the super golden chest at Level 50 will be exciting!

I am not going to use the infinite golden keys glitch 'cause it'd just break the game for me.

Under a tenner for the PC steam version via GMG

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/es/en/p ... erlands-2/

listed at £11.99 , use the code GMG20-P4DLK-FKYRS to knock it down to £9.60

Pretty regular golden key codes on the Gearbox Twitter feed at the moment.

It's nice to see that Twitter is useful for something after all.

Also note that in a recent update, the loot quality out of the Torgue vending machines was much improved. (The ones you need Torgue Tokens to buy stuff from.)

Previously it was a load of L48/49 blues, with a mega-expensive deal of the day L50 purple.

Now all the standard gear is L50 purples, with an L50 orange as the deal of the day.

If you've got a load of unspent Torgue tokens (and I did), deffo worth popping down to Moxxi's bar in the Crater of Badassitutde to check the machine out.

As for the game itself, I'm popping on most nights to knock off a few quests from my quest log in TVHM, but in the main I'm waiting for the level cap increase now so I can get the Hammerlock DLC properly underway.

I like this game. IIRC I'm at level 5 because although I pre ordered it eons ago both me and my gaming partner Ryan found love at the same time and have pretty much managed to rack up the same level of life events each

Where I live now is very remote so when the phoneline died it took nearly a month to fix.

Then Ryan has no internet so it's pretty wank atm. Should be sorted soon then I can give it the attention it deserves.

Is that shit off the front page yet? No? Oh fuck it, I quit. Hang on, no one cares? Well, fuck ya I'm staying. How'd you like them apples?

Splendid news!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... unter-mode

Will be nice to dust this game off and get the Hammerlock DLC done. I already have the fourth DLC pack through the season pass so that's something to look forward to, not sure I'll be dropping any more money on another playable class though.

Level cap increase now live. You can now level to 61 and there's a new higher tier of weapon rarity too.

Free if you've got the Season Pass otherwise you have to pay for it (!).

I'm reinstalling the game now on Steam, hopefully its cloud save is as 100% comprehensive as BF3's is.

Latest (and final I think?) DLC now live, reviewed above-averagely at Eurogamer but also by someone who appears not to have played and/or like the game very much.

AND IT'S ALL ABOUT TINY TINA!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... eep-review

'Free' if you've got the Season Pass, will cost some money otherwise.

I have to say the sheer joy of the game was starting to wane a little bit for me towards the end of the Hammerlock DLC, but then again that was by far the weakest of the three DLC packs at that time - a DLC focused entirely on Tiny Tina can only be awesome.

Need to finish the Dishonored DLC first though.

The Tiny Tina DLC is awesomely good fun, ignore the 7/10 review at Eurogamer I linked above, 'cause they called it wrong.

A wonderful last hurrah for the game. (Although I do believe there's more DLC to come, except it will cost more money 'cause it's outside the four bits of DLC the Season Pass bought.)

I also snapped up the 'Psycho' character class in the Steam eight hour quicky sale yesterday, can't go too far wrong for £2.71

Not even sure I'll play the game through again but apparently he's very well written so I'll definitely take a look.

Old Man Afterthought has this and loves it to bits, right now.

There's very little not to like about the game as a whole IMO, it's weird that two of my favourite games ever (BL2 and Dishonored) have been released so close together, after years of finding the whole FPS/RPG-esque genre pretty damn lacklustre. (I know some people wet themselves over Skyrim and Fallout 3, but I thought they were a bit rubbish.) DXHR was brilliant but I wasn't motivated to play it through again, which I have done with both BL2 and Dishonored.

I'm moving through the Tiny Tina DLC at the moment, which is hugely entertaining, although it does completely break the fourth wall so you have to be prepared to accept that.

Tiny Tina's reaction to seeing a salad for the first time (apparently she has eaten nothing but crumpets for thirteen years) - 'WHAT IS THAT? IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEVIL!'

Tiny Tina DLC finish! Hugely entertaining from start to finish but TBH I think you really need to have played WoW or at least similar MMOs to get some of the humour, it's not so much a pisstake of WoW as a homage I think.

So that's the main campaign finished in Normal Mode, in True Vault Hunter Mode, and all the four DLCs completed as well (mostly in TVHM but one was in Normal IIRC).

I purchased the Psycho class in the Steam Sale for about £1.74p (something like that) on the 50/50 chance I'd feel like playing through the game again, but on balance, probably not. Or at least not at the moment.

There is still Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode but I spent a couple of hours on that and it's just a bit too bullet-spongey and hard work for me to think there's really any fun to be had there, and similarly playing through the game again as a different class, be it the purchased Psycho DLC or anything else, would cross the line from fun into chore.

The stats don't lie though, got just shy of 160 hours out of the game which for a total cost of £40 is pretty damn good value. (Got the game in the Steam Sale for £15, £17 for the Season Pass IIRC and then £8 for the Mechro class plus under £2 for the Psycho.)

Absolutely without a doubt a top five contender for this generation (i.e. games I've played from 2006 onwards), and probably in my Top Ten Games Ever, come to think about it.

Do PCs have a generation as such? I guess it's sort of determined by the consoles.

There's definitely been a PC 'generation curve' for the 360/PS3 era. When the 360 launched a lot of their games were a step-up in technical terms from what was available on the PC, the likes of Ridge Racer 6 for example, running at a solid 720p@60FPS with fantastic graphics, there was nothing like that on the PC at the time - and I was all over that motherfucker like a cheap suit.

Even GTA4 when it was released was infinitely better on the 360 (despite being terribly shonky if you looked at it objectively), simply because the PC to run it equivalently, let alone better, simply didn't exist at the time.

Plus of course the 360 came with XBL, XBLA, friends and cheevos and all the rest of it. Yeah Steam was around in 2006 of course, but it was nothing like as good as it is now, so the 360 was a bit of a revelation there too.

For me it's all turned around in the last three or four years and I'm back on the PC, but I'm intrigued to see what the next generation of consoles will bring.

Well, the PS4 specifically, the XBoner can fuck right off.

I've never played Borderlands.

... but I've played Borderlands 2! Cor, it's funny init? The talk that comes out peoples face's is reet good. Me likey a lot.

And it's pretty! I might spend some quality time with this for a bit.






The backpack is fucking terrible though. Fucks sake.

This is ace despite being very much like ID's utterly miserable RAGE. It's fab and if you've not played it, PS Plusers, then you must play it, PS Plusers, cause it's free, PS Plusers, to PS Plusers! Yay PS Plus!

What class are you playing? The mechromancer is insanely good fun, and she has some of the best sassy lines too.

I'm a Gunzerker. I didn't realise that my character did talk until about three hours when I realised that grunting was me.

It's got a bit boring now I'm running missions for the revolution and Claptrap isn't about. He's been replaced with a host of tired army characters. Shame cause I was really enjoying it, but at least there are some moments which are still funny dotted about between gunning down endless waves of tanks and tanks with shields.

Is it worth playing single player? AE's chat about the game always made it sound really excellent, but I think people had said before that it's designed to be played multi-player and isn't worth playing offline SP.

I played it through single player and had lots of fun with it. I think it's a much better single player game than its predecessor was.

My experience of BL1 tallies fairly well with Saturnmans. But it was at least countered by co-op banter.

I may give BL2 a go tomorrow. (If anyone cares to join...)

It's a better as a single player game, lots better. Hang on I banged on about it earlier in this thread....

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I'd rank it as one my Top Ten Games Ever, play it all pimped out (the PhysX stuff is gorgeous, runs better on an Nvidia GPU), crank up the volume, and when you're in the zone with it - by christ it's amazing.

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Do all the side quests, listen to all the dialogue, try out all the guns, enjoy the humour (this is a FUNNY game), don't just charge straight through the main campaign story missions. There's a lot of good advice earlier in this very thread if you're having trouble and/or getting a bit frustrated.

Personally I'd drop a few quid on the mechromancer class as she's awesome and the anarchy mechanic is fantastic.

what will you be playing it on?

Sorry, should've said. ps3 - free for PSN subscribers.

Each to their own of course but I would honestly advise against playing this game in co-op.

You'll miss dialogue, you'll miss story development, you'll miss quest triggers, you'll miss loot, you'll miss out on a lot of the satisfaction of the gunplay as the game just spawns more enemies and makes them irritating bullet sponges, you'll miss out on strategy because you won't be controlling the enemies and the pulls as you want to - and so on.

In essence it starts to turn into a bit of an uncoordinated mess.

On the other hand I thoroughly enjoyed co op and wouldn't have played the game for nearly as long without it. Don't have a ps3 though

Mmm, feels just like BL1, but single player. Meh.

I'm cracking along but now the city has taken off I've got a bit bored of it.

I knew it'd irritated me when I was forced to run across two maps I've visited before to do a task that involved fighting my way through what can only be described as a shit-load of baddies that I'd battled slowly through about an hour before and who had all mysteriously respawned.

The tasks are well written but executed in typical pooter game fashion which is a shame. For example, you kill some guy who leaves a hilarious note about "if you're reading this message you've just killed me" it directs you, no that was a good one, ok, Tina's tea party: consists of go three places and get three things and bring them back to her, then luring a baddie back, then suffer about 8 waves of enemies. It's funny, twisted, and yet it's only a tedious collectathon and tedious horde-mode. Ah well...

Best quest: 'Shoot this guy in the face'

If you're not getting any joy out of Tiny Tina's chunk of the game then you're probably best off leaving it alone TBH.

I'm not even sure what your complaint is, given that this is an FPS RPG loot-em-up style game which you seem to be saying yourself delivers that formula perfectly well?

It's not a format that's for everyone which is fine, but you almost seem to be criticising it for making a really good job of what it set out to do in the first place?

I'd have joined you, but I was bowling tonight.

Maybe some time in the week, then?

You have my number - let me know when you're around.

Stumbled across this - ace.

It obviously wants me to do the side quests buried can't be arsed. Now I'm nearing the end fighting level 24 robots when I'm only level 21and they've all become bullet sponges which, strangely, has made it even better as I struggle to cope with massively overwhelming odds. Fucked em up though.

The AI who wants you

That psychotic AI is fantastic, even trying to kill Moxxi's patrons with its horrible singing

I can really see myself reinstalling this and playing through the whole thing again as the Psycho class, which I purchased when it was super-cheap in a Steam sale but had pretty much maxed out on the game at that point so didn't make a start.

There's just so much about the game that's ridiculously awesome.