Oh, unless it's about Oscar Pistorious [sp], I guess.

I have also just discovered this and agree with the above muchly. Just got on to Season 2 - it's all on iPlayer so easy enough to watch.

DJ Beats is one of my new favourite comedy characters.

Well that's £25 million down the shitter.

[edit] Oh wait, it's only Mel and Sue that won't be going. It's the judges that really matter.

Mary Berry has just said she won't go with the show to C4

On fucking tenterhooks here!

She said the BBC had "nurtured me, and the show, that was a unique and brilliant format from day one".

A cooking competition, you say? On television?! That's so unique!

Shrivelled old dipshit.

And, much like Mr Cowell, people only care about his opinion.

Peter Cowell

He was on Radio 4 talking about his life and upbringing. He seemed to be quite nice.

Seems like a situation I wouldn't want to be in.

You know they're told what to say and how to act, right?

You'll be saying that you think they choose who is kicked off each week next.

At the time of writing, the BBC News website considers this the most important thing happening in the world.

You know they're told what to say and how to act, right?

You'll be saying that you think they choose who is kicked off each week next.

You know I use to work in a television studio, right?

Yes, and?

It goes back to what I was saying... knowing the work arsehole isn't an arsehole outside of work doesn't mean you think better if his arseholish work ways.

It just seems odd that you are trying to school me on how TV cookery shows are made when I worked on a TV cookery show...

It goes back to what I was saying... knowing the work arsehole isn't an arsehole outside of work doesn't mean you think better if his arseholish work ways.

It doesn't make Paul Hollywood any more likeable on screen in his role. Mary Berry's niceness is a balance.

Agreed! Mary and Paul represent the light and the dark side of baking. Mary's like the amalgam of every nice Nana or Aunt in the would who just wants you to do well and make nice things, and Paul's obsessed with the technical end result and proving himself right. And he has dead eyes. Like a doll's eyes.

A friend of mine really fancies him, mainly because of those eyes.

A friend of mine really fancies him, mainly because of those eyes.

But if it is scripted and he's the character "Paul Hollywood, Jaded Baker", then it surely changes stuff? Bruno Ganz was a bit of a dick in Downfall but he was playing Hitler but I am fairly sure he doesn't test poison on dogs.

Hmm, but it's not like your ex-colleague was told to deliberately be an arsehole to you (and may have been otherwise nice when the cameras weren't rolling)

There's a difference between being an actor and being a presenter. Convincingly acting like a complete arsehole is probably a bit difficult for someone who isn't either at least a bit of an arsehole or a good actor.

Fuck me, Grim...; you built in hashtags!

What are you actually arguing against here, though?

That I like Mary Berry?
That I think the positivity of MB is nice as a balance to PH?
That I don't much like the on-screen persona of PH and don't think that the off-screen him makes watching him on-screen any more enjoyable?
Or just because I must always be wrong about everything?

I'm not going to magically like Paul Hollywood on GBBO just because he seems nice on the radio.

That I don't much like the on-screen persona of PH and don't think that the off-screen him makes watching him on-screen any more enjoyable?

That I think it's a bit of a false equivalence between the guy at work who was being an arsehole and Paul Hollywood who was being an arsehole. The strong likelihood is that the work guy is actually an arsehole whereas Paul Hollywood was playing a role.

knowing you're not always an arsehole outside of work does not stop me sitting at work thinking you're an arsehole.

Even So:

Even if part of his job is literally pretending to be an arsehole?

This is like Inception.