Be Excellent To Each Other

Oh, also, my heartfelt plans to remain upstanding and kind and good and true almost fell when I met the sheriff of Megaton. I want that hat. I would turn evil for that hat.

Pistols do about 3 damage, and miss. Clubbing/stabbing things does twice that and doesn't miss or take ammo.

I've been using the VATS thing some of the time, but mostly just closing with melee weapons because the pistols are obviously shit, and I've survived about 20 shotgun blasts point blank, so I don't imagine they're much better. Which isn't that different to the first two games, mind. I just found the actual hitting and shooting lacking in the satisfaction stakes.

You need to fix your pistol up or find a better one. My pistol one-shot kills with exploding headshots. I can't think of anything more satisfying!

Gah bollocks. Forgot to bring it in today. Will do it tomorrow WITHOUT FAIL. Soz.

I've brought it with me today but I might post it tomorrow.

SA, the shotgun is a must! Lots of tight corriders and stuff where suddenly a scary scary thing appears round the corner. I felt a lot safer knowing I could shotgun him in the face and he'd die
I also think it's worth doing the first main quest mission to get to know the map and some characters then start doing your own thing.

Hammer the gun and repair perks/skills early on.

Never bothered with the shotgun(s). I'm an energy weapons man.

Energy weapons are for idiots who can't face living in the real world. Bullets FTW.

Am I the only person in Christendom who took so long to leave the vault it was actually dark when I got outside so missed this amazing first experience.

Me.

I was also having a piss in the toilets in some shit pub in Leeds at 23:59:59 on 31/12/1999.

I love my minigun and scoped .44 but nothing tops frying a ghoul in one hit leaving a pile of ash (and bottle caps).

WHATEVER

Most energy weapons are surprisingly rather underpowered, particularly compared to some of the specialist rifles. The exception to that is the alien blaster, but ammo for that is so scarce it's an occasional use, tight corner, sort of a weapon.

*itches alien blaster*

Your face is surprisingly rather underpowered.

You're a face.

Get the Blackhawk from Aggie. It's fucking wicked.

Also : Take the bloody mess perk. Hilarity at its finest.

I really regret taking the bloody mess perk, as now when I shoot someone in the head with a Backwater Rifle their legs and arms fall off.

Bloody mess was done much, much better in Fallout 1 and 2.

And, come to think of it, usual damage effects are a bit silly too - if I shoot someone in the head and they die, their head shouldn't fall off in one complete piece.

You're a complete piece.

I found Bloody Mess amusing but towards the end of the game, after I'd seen them thousands of times, the bullettime animations were just slowing me down without providing any entertainment.

I know you are but what am I?

Never bothered with Bloody Mess, Mysterious Stranger is a strange little perk though. Been handy having him pop up at times.

I might start Fallout 3 over and use that, then.

It's funny but then you don't get the XP from the kill.

That's why I don't use companions. Fawkes just obliterates anything in his path leaving you with no XP

And if you have the Bounty Hunter perk you don't get the fingers. Or if you are hunting mutants you don't get the blood sample ETC.

All of those things are good toward the beginning of the game but screw you later on when you're a right hard nut.

True, but he's a brilliant mule. I can't send him off, we been through a lot of shit.

Posted.

Quoted.

Ignored.

Posted GOTY Disc 2 to MaliA.

Love you.

Slag.

Please post to Gilly once you're done installing it.

Zardoz, they don't need us anymore.

We still have each other... and we'll always have Manchester.

OK.

GIlly! Where do you live?

Still in two minds over this. It is a curious mixture of fun and promisingness, but it has been bitterly contaminated by some of Oblivion's more horrible toxins.

Overall it's fun so far, so. A small detail that I felt deserved some celebration is that the game tells you if a container is empty if you look at it. More games should do this over having you tediously open and close 200 boxes in every building.

Melee/unarmed is still disappointingly rubbish, and the guns are still a bit crap. However, jumping out over a crouching mook, then having him look up, in terrible* VATS slow motion, and look at me helpelessly for a split second before his head disappeared in a point-blank shotgun red mist was both terrific and horrifying at once.

Quick question: How viable is it to set up supply stashes around the wasteland? If I put stuff into a box I find in case I need it later, will it disappear? Is there merely a chance it will disappear (ie: does the game account for the possibility that someone might just find and take it?)?


*as in, 'terrible for him', not 'poorly done'

I wondered about this but never tried it. There are a couple of opportunities depending on which story arc you follow to own various properties you can store stuff in and IIRC you can fast travel to any place you've already been to, which neatly sidesteps the need to stash stuff around the map. It would be an interesting experiment to see if stuff you did put down stayed there throughout the game, as I am aware that enemies move about though by and large areas you've cleared pretty much stay that way, which is no bad thing I think. In short, try it.

Like all RPGs as you level up and progress you will acquire so much stuff you won't be able to carry it all, though fortunately there are no limits on the amount of ammo you can carry. Also, the enemies don't level with you like Oblivion did. They have level parameters depending on your level, for instance a Fire Ant could be anything between a level 4 and 7 and the game will adjust accordingly to try and match your level, but it won't go beyond that upper level. Obviously there are some very tough enemies you want to avoid like the plague until you can get close to or exceed their levels.

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Sinister, bear in mind you seem to be fairly early into the game, so your weaponry is probably very low quality stuff. As you progress, not only will you find better weapons, you'll have a decent enough repair skill to unshittify your guns.

I genuinely believe that Fallout 3 is one of the greatest, most accomplished games I've ever played.

I think it's a vaguely entertaining, deeply pretty, but pretty weak game. I've started disagreeing with the hive mind a lot lately. I think you're all becoming morons.

It's a fairly standard RPG with an interesting setting, but some rather clunky underpinnings destined by the complexity of the setting.

Your face disagrees with the hive mind. Particularly the mouth part of the face.

Reading the first two dozen pages of this thread shows that you totally bummed it for ages. What changed your mind?

I only properly got into it a couple of months ago, and now I love it.

When I started playing, everything was exciting, and fabulous, and new. By the time I was 5 hours in, the game didn't have a single new thing to throw at me.

Then you went the wrong way.

Haha, zinged by John Coffey.

But that makes no sense....

Five hours in? I didn't even know what was going on for the first five hours. Five hours is like the tutorial or something. I didn't start loving it until 10 hours. After 20 hours I had to change out of my jeans into some open-fly boxer shorts because my erection was being throttled.

Really? It took about ten minutes to work out exactly what it was all about - there was nothing particularly complicated. Then I saw beautiful bits of the wasteland, but shortly afterwards realised that the wasteland was all like that, and there wasn't anywhere where it particularly used that scenery to great effect. Just very similar set pieces linked up by big expanses of being attacked by annoying things like dogs and robots.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game, I just felt like after a few hours, it had nothing left to impress me with.