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Hardly any cars have remote locking that goes plip. It's an audio trope that's rivaled only by a V8, Castle Thunder and the Wilhelm scream.

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Hardly any cars have remote locking that goes plip. It's an audio trope that's rivaled only by a V8, Castle Thunder and the Wilhelm scream.


But I don't think this model of Mercedes would have had remote central locking at all, plipping or otherwise.

In fact, the GOOGLEBRAIN says it was a 1978 300CD (W123) so I call shenanigans on remote central locking.

Fortunately there was Maura Tierney to take my mind off this transgression.

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My old Toyota Corolla had remote locking that went plip.

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Technically a 70s car is more likely to go "pip" as it would have been an aftermarket system.

Some old cars made a noise as standard when you locked them, but that went away pretty fast.

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My Peugeot 306 did. Highly irritating

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Technically a 70s car is more likely to go "pip" as it would have been an aftermarket system.

Some old cars made a noise as standard when you locked them, but that went away pretty fast.


There was nothing in the script to indicate Mr Gere's car had an aftermarket remote central locking solution, as such the effect was to confuse the viewer.

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Surely all cars have a central locking noise.... CLICK!


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Surely all cars have a central locking noise.... CLICK!

Fucking Focus is practically silent, which is piss annoying as you have to look at it to know if it's locked.

The old one used to fold its mirrors away which made a noise, but the new one doesn't. Grr.

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I have to use my key as the fob got soaked on the Legoland log flume and fuck paying more for a fob than I did for the car :D


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I have to use my key as the fob got soaked on the Legoland log flume and fuck paying more for a fob than I did for the car :D

Did you disassemble it and put it in rice?

I hear putting things in rice is brilliant, as it summons tiny Asian pixies to fix your electronics while you sleep.

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Mr Russell wrote:
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I have to use my key as the fob got soaked on the Legoland log flume and fuck paying more for a fob than I did for the car :D

Did you disassemble it and put it in rice?

I hear putting things in rice is brilliant, as it summons tiny Asian pixies to fix your electronics while you sleep.

It's definitely dry. But broken in a non-physical way. That can only be fixed by Citroen. For mega spends


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I have to use my key as the fob got soaked on the Legoland log flume and fuck paying more for a fob than I did for the car :D

Did you disassemble it and put it in rice?

I hear putting things in rice is brilliant, as it summons tiny Asian pixies to fix your electronics while you sleep.


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DavPaz wrote:
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I have to use my key as the fob got soaked on the Legoland log flume and fuck paying more for a fob than I did for the car :D

Did you disassemble it and put it in rice?

I hear putting things in rice is brilliant, as it summons tiny Asian pixies to fix your electronics while you sleep.

It's definitely dry. But broken in a non-physical way. That can only be fixed by Citroen. For mega spends


Your car key is spiritually broken?

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I have to use my key as the fob got soaked on the Legoland log flume and fuck paying more for a fob than I did for the car :D

Did you disassemble it and put it in rice?

I hear putting things in rice is brilliant, as it summons tiny Asian pixies to fix your electronics while you sleep.

It's definitely dry. But broken in a non-physical way. That can only be fixed by Citroen. For mega spends

Your car key is spiritually broken?

Emotionally.

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Cras wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
I have to use my key as the fob got soaked on the Legoland log flume and fuck paying more for a fob than I did for the car :D

Did you disassemble it and put it in rice?

I hear putting things in rice is brilliant, as it summons tiny Asian pixies to fix your electronics while you sleep.

It's definitely dry. But broken in a non-physical way. That can only be fixed by Citroen. For mega spends

Your car key is spiritually broken?

Emotionally.

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DavPaz wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Cras wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
I have to use my key as the fob got soaked on the Legoland log flume and fuck paying more for a fob than I did for the car :D

Did you disassemble it and put it in rice?

I hear putting things in rice is brilliant, as it summons tiny Asian pixies to fix your electronics while you sleep.

It's definitely dry. But broken in a non-physical way. That can only be fixed by Citroen. For mega spends

Your car key is spiritually broken?

Emotionally.

Ecumenically

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Giphy "applause":
http://media0.giphy.com/media/3otPoDkTbcZn7dPyAE/giphy-loop.mp4

Edit: I was expecting something more enthusiastic!


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Primal Fear is indeed pretty good.


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Interesting piece about Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom's history of censorship at the BBFC.

Lots of cuts originally made for it to get a PG certificate, otherwise it would have been a 15 with one scene considered to be bordering on an 18 (!). The cuts then persisted on all subsequent home PG releases, before finally emerging uncut with a 12.

This is the film that also brought about the PG-13 in the States, to give the MPAA a certificate to use between PG and R.

http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/bbfc_cuts ... f_doom.htm

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Fourteen members of the Board have seen this film, and each, reluctantly, has conceded that the film in its present form cannot be passed below the '15' category, barring all children below that age whether accompanied or not. There should be no misunderstanding of how seriously we take the problem this film presents... with the sacrificial ceremony bordering on '18'.




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Tonight's film was 'SULLY', directed by the increasingly insane and Trump-adoring Mr Clint Eastwood, who it turns out still directs a very good movie despite being nearly two hundred years old.

There are no real spoilers or anything here, since the whole thing is a matter of record, in that an Airbus A-320 did indeed crash-land on the Hudson river in 2009, and everyone survived.

The film deals with the event itself, fills in some backstory, and adds in some human interest, but is mainly focused on the NTSB investigation and the suggestion that Sully could have made it back to one of two runways instead of ditching into the Hudson.


Sully's book of the same name is a worthwhile read too. Plenty of his life before the incident and a bit more after the event, but very little about the investigation and certainly nothing critical of the NTSB.


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Allied - Hollow unremarkable but not terrible wartime drama. Brad Pitt puts in his worst performance I've ever seen.

A Monster Calls - Has everything in the right place to make it a tearjearker. Yet I was strangely unmoved.

Assassin's Creed - The worst film I've seen since London Has Fallen. Horrible jumbled mess visually, deafening score and Fassbender unable to save it.

Leap! (Aka Ballerina) - A visually pleasing, charming and surprisingly touching tale about a girl working hard to be a ballerina. Exceptional voice acting really livens things up too.

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So we watched adult last night and I agree with everything said above. Very well made, but the NTSB scenes were horribly biased.


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Watched Rogue One again last night - was better the second time around.

Am off to see Live By Night tonight.


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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
So we watched adult last night and I agree with everything said above. Very well made, but the NTSB scenes were horribly biased.


That last adult film I watched had NSFW scenes in it.


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The film is set in a strange world that looks a bit like ours except no one has mobile phones and all television and computer screens are really big and chunky, and a woman keeps trying to smoke indoors.


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Oh yeah... I watched Absolutely Fabulous the movie.

It was alright.

5/10.


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Grim...'s pick for the film of 2017:


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I watched a film: The Girl on the Train.

It's got issues but, by god, Emily Blunt was fantastic. There's a scene where she plays a piss 'ed having a major meltdown in a bathroom which was so outstanding that it had the hairs on my neck standing on edge. The film is very good but she elevated it immensely.

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I watched a film: The Girl on the Train.

It's got issues but, by god, Emily Blunt was fantastic. There's a scene where she plays a piss 'ed having a major meltdown in a bathroom which was so outstanding that it had the hairs on my neck standing on edge. The film is very good but she elevated it immensely.

Mucho recommendo.


I think my wife wanted to watch this which normally means that I won't enjoy it. I'll have to check it out now.


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Did your wife read the book?


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Oh yeah... I watched Absolutely Fabulous the movie.

It was alright.

5/10.

:this:

A few very funny lines, but too much farce. Relies on the performances, esp. Joanna Lumley just being Patsy, too much.


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Last night, I watched Live By Night, Ben Affleck's new movie (directed, co-produced, written and starring him).

It's based on a novel of the same name, and the basic gist of the movie is that it's a Prohibition-era gangster flick that starts out
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seeming like it's going to be a revenge movie, then rapidly becomes something a bit different, and then goes back to being a revenge movie at the end.


I enjoyed it, and would watch it again. The cast is great - as well as Affleck, we have Brendan Gleeson, Chris Cooper, Sienna Miller, Zoe Saldana and a surprisingly moving performance from Elle Fanning who I've never heard of before but is presumably related to Dakota. Affleck gets plenty of opportunity to do his trademark Boston accent and frowny face.

About the only complaint about the film that I can level at it is that it's pacing is all over the shop, and (as in the spoiler above) it almost seems like it doesn't know what it wants to be. I'm sure that's not the case and that they knew exactly what they wanted on screen, but it leaves the impression that it's not a very cohesive film.

I'd still give it a 6/10 though.


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A 6/10 film you'd watch again? Interesting.

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It's only the abominable films that I wouldn't watch a second time. I even watched Suicide Squad twice.

A second viewing means you can notice more stuff in the background.


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Just think of all the 7/10 films you're not watching while you watch rubbish ones again!

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I'm not much of a film person so I tend to try and only watch really good stuff or comically bad ones. I haven't got room in my life for average movies.

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Just think of all the 7/10 films you're not watching while you watch rubbish ones again!

I prefer one star films:
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I'm not much of a film person so I tend to try and only watch really good stuff or comically bad ones. I haven't got room in my life for average movies.

I assume you've watched Tremors though, right? Which was basically considered an average movie when it came out, but is obviously one of the greatest films ever made.


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Lonewolves wrote:
I'm not much of a film person so I tend to try and only watch really good stuff or comically bad ones. I haven't got room in my life for average movies.

I assume you've watched Tremors though, right? Which was basically considered an average movie when it came out, but is obviously one of the greatest films ever made.

I've not! We can watch it at yours when you invite us over. Cough.

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Tonight's film was 'THE WAR ZONE', which is a film directed by Tim Roth. (And indeed, is the only film directed by Tim Roth, in the same way that Gary Oldman has only directed 'NIL BY MOUTH'.)

This is a desperately upsetting and harrowing film, and in the same way that Oldman clearly had to make Nil By Mouth, Roth has the same relationship with The War Zone. As per his interview here - https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/d ... gton-place

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... gainst-you

It was the above linked interview that compelled me to seek out The War Zone, even though I knew it wouldn't be a comfortable watch. The film is available to stream on Amazon for a cost and is not a Prime film (and is not on Netflix), or one can 'purchase' digitally from Amazon but it was cheaper to actually buy the DVD brand new from Amazon so I did that instead.

I've had the DVD for a few weeks but I've only this evening found myself with the head space to take it on, and it was every bit as brilliant and annihilating as I'd expected.

I'll just defer to Mr Berardinelli's review (I will spoiler tag this just to keep this post to a reasonable size onscreen).

910/1000

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The title of The War Zone conjures up images of devastation and disaster, of broken lives and rotting corpses. And, while this stunningly accomplished feature debut from Tim Roth has nothing to do with traditional battlefields, it is every bit as harrowing as the first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan or the whole of Schindler's List. The destruction presented in this film is as graphic and shocking as anything depicted in the most unsparing war movie, except that the victims are not soldiers trained for combat, but children placed in harm's way.

Incest isn't just a "nasty little secret" or a "family issue." It is an abuse of power and a violation of trust. Even when the sex is ostensibly consensual, it is rape. Perhaps the most unnerving thing about incest is how often it happens and how many silent victims there are. Statistics are meaningless with this kind of molestation - shame keeps a majority of those affected quiet, so there's no way to get an accurate count. Yet experts agree that it is a prevalent cancer that infects families of every racial and social background. Gather a hundred random people together, and there are virtually guaranteed to be victims (and perhaps abusers as well) in their midst. Seat those same hundred people in a theater showing The War Zone, and the visceral reactions of the victims will betray them. At a public screening of this movie during the 1999 Toronto International Film Festival, one viewer was so upset that, in the midst of a crucial scene, he rose to his feet and shouted that he couldn't take any more, then headed for the exit, intending to pull the fire alarm. Roth, who was in attendance, intercepted him at the door, and it took 20 minutes of intense conversation to calm the man down.

The War Zone is a devastating motion picture; it's the kind of movie that stuns an audience so absolutely that they remain paralyzed in their seats through the end credits. It does not deal in euphemisms nor does it hide the physical and emotional brutality of the act from viewers. What Roth has accomplished is nothing short of brilliant, but it is also incredibly daring, because the film has no commercial prospects. No matter how many critics trumpet The War Zone's merits, viewers will not flock to see it; the subject matter is too upsetting and daunting. Yet for sheer force of emotional power, I have not seen the movie's like in years. As I write this review two weeks after seeing The War Zone, every scene remains fresh in my mind, and the overall impact has not lessened.

The film takes place in the rural Devon countryside, where a family of four has just moved from London. Events are related from the perspective of 15 year-old Tom (Freddie Cunliffe), who is unhappy with life away from the city. His 18 year-old sister, Jessie (Lara Belmont), has apparently adjusted better than he has. His parents (Ray Winstone, Tilda Swinton) seem happy and comfortable in their new home, and his mother is on the verge of delivering her third child. Then, shortly after the baby is born, Tom's world is turned upside down when he spies a covert sexual encounter between Jessie and his father. Tom confronts Jessie about the incident, but she denies it, accusing him of having an overactive imagination. He is not convinced, however, and sets out to learn the facts. The truth he must face, and its ramifications upon every member of the family, form The War Zone's core drama.

In his handling of the material, Roth shows more ability than many accomplished, veteran filmmakers. He paints Devon as a grim, rainy place where darkness and grayness are always enroaching upon the light. Roth deals with the story in a way that does not insult the viewer's intelligence. There is much ambiguity to be found here. While one key rape is graphically depicted, the depth of the father's depravity and the question of how much the mother knows are left up to the individual to determine. Roth freely admits that, with The War Zone, he has pushed the envelope as far as it can go - had he attempted more, the movie would have become too painful for anyone to watch. Even in its current form, it is a difficult, although rewarding, experience for those who make the effort. There is no comic relief and no happy ending (although there is a catharsis of sorts). Perhaps Jessie puts it best when she says, "You want everything to be nice and sweet, but it isn't." Comparisons with Francois Truffaut's The 400 Blows and Lasse Hallstrom's My Life As a Dog (two films that Roth says inspired his approach to The War Zone) are entirely reasonable.

While Roth's adept direction and Alexander Stuart's screenplay are integral to the film's success, the consistently high level of acting is of paramount importance. Roth has assembled an amazing quartet of actors, two of whom have not had previous screen experience. Newcomer Freddie Cunliffe plays the silent, stone-faced, and uncommunicative Tom. Cunliffe effectively captures the teenager's growing horror and anger as he learns the truth about the relationship between his father and sister. It would have been easy for Cunliffe to go over-the-top, but he keeps everything low-key, and therein lies the power of his performance. As Jessie, Lara Belmont is extraordinary. Her portrayal of the tormented, conflicted girl astonishes with its raw power. Stripped naked for the cameras (both emotionally and physically), the young actress gets everything right, from the heartbreaking pain evident during the rape scene to the subtle nuances of her interaction with the other characters. Her ability is most evident during the scene when Tom confronts their father - as a disconsolate, uncontrollably sobbing Jessie sits at the kitchen table, Belmont brings character's torment to the audience with full force. Not since Emily Watson in Breaking the Waves has an actresses' work affected me this deeply.

The two veterans in the cast are Ray Winstone and Tilda Swinton. Winstone is no stranger to this sort of role - he played something similar in Nil By Mouth (another difficult-but-powerful British film). The strength of Winstone's performance is that he makes his character into a far more complex individual than the typical child abuser. With the exception of the rape scene, he is shown to be a loving, caring father and husband. Only once does the monster come into the open. Swinton is equally effective as the mother, who is apparently oblivious to the true nature of her husband's relationship with their daughter. The actress played this part immediately after giving birth to twins, and shows great dedication to her craft for displaying her nude body in its post-birth form.

Over the years, few movies have taken this sort of forthright look at incest. Often, even in the best of films (like Atom Egoyan's masterful The Sweet Hereafter), it is relegated to a subplot or the impact is diluted to make the picture more palatable. Stories about incest are actually presented with some frequency in network TV shows and made-for-TV movies, but the constraints of the medium emasculate the subject matter, leaving it poorly-focused and melodramatic. In my lifetime, I have seen thousands of films, but none has been as unflinching in its approach to this issue as The War Zone. For his courage and ability, Tim Roth deserves all the praise and recognition he probably will not get. To date, The War Zone is the best movie of 1999.


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I watched a film: The Girl on the Train.

It's got issues but, by god, Emily Blunt was fantastic. There's a scene where she plays a piss 'ed having a major meltdown in a bathroom which was so outstanding that it had the hairs on my neck standing on edge. The film is very good but she elevated it immensely.

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I watched this last night and thought it was excellent! Not what I was expecting but nevertheless, it was brilliant. Highly recommended.


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We watched about 2/3 of London has Fallen last night - after far too long of giving it the benefit of the doubt (as we both enjoyed the OTT silliness of Olympus Has Fallen), we turned it off in boredom and having got sick of picking holes in literally everything about the film. 134/1000.

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I really liked Olympus Has Fallen as a kind of dirty pleasure, and it was nice to see a Die Hard style scenario done properly as opposed to the neutered PG-13 nonsense that the Die Hards turned into.

London Has Fallen is on Netflix but I've heard nothing other than absolute horror stories about it so won't be watching. It genuinely seems to fall into the 'two hours of your life you won't get back' territory.


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I really liked Olympus Has Fallen as a kind of dirty pleasure, and it was nice to see a Die Hard style scenario done properly as opposed to the neutered PG-13 nonsense that the Die Hards turned into.

Die Hard is (by modern standards) a 15, though. It's not exactly a gore fest. I'd argue that's a key part of its appeal. It's quite light-hearted, really.

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The depiction of violence was the main focus for the BBFC, and these reports explain clearly how the careful choreography of the action worked at the 18 category. "Much is left to the imagination" and Bruce Willis "diffuses much of the violence with his persona". Whilst there are some close-up shots of injury details the examiners recognise that these do not "revel in sadism for the sake of it". A fight between McClane and "a blond terrorist....skilfully suggests considerable toughness without appearances of blood or slow motion or close-up". Often the climactic moments are "perpetrated by an inanimate object i.e. falling through glass at the end of a fight". Overall, the depiction of violence avoids any harmful "selling of brutality", and the team were confident that Die Hard could sit comfortably at the 18 category without any cuts.

Die Hard was also rated 18 for its video release and remained at that category until 2008, when it was reclassified as part of a formal submission. Watching the film 20 years after the original theatrical submission the new examining team agreed with the observations of the 1988 reports, chiefly that much of the violence is implied and presented without strong, gory detail. The BBFC Guidelines in place in 2008 could now accommodate the action at 15, as the Guidelines at that category stated "'violence may be strong but may not dwell on the infliction of pain or injury".

Die Hard remains a 15, and was also classified 15 for theatrical release in 2013.


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There's a massive gulf between what's permitted at 12/12A and what's permitted at 15 though (with our 12 generally sitting alongside PG-13, and 15/18 being R, or in some cases NC-17.)

Also, I'd argue that Die Hard 2 and Die Hard 3 are 'harder' films than the original, with 2 and 3 both being cut quite substantially to get 15 certificates at the time. (I note that 2 and 3 have been reclassified uncut as 15 at some point too.)

Anyway, all I was saying about Olympus Has Fallen was it being refreshing to have a bit of proper blood 'n guts and swearing in an action film, as opposed to the ration of a couple of fucks and bloodless shooting that hamstrings PG-13/12 action films, and famously nobbled Live Free or Die Hard.


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I guess what I'm arguing is that there's a lot of reasons Die Hard 4 is awful and targeting PG-13 might not even be in the top five for me.


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I quite enjoyed Die Hard 4.0...

The 5th one wasn't complete pants either.

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