are they just ignoring that in the case of hotel cleaning staff?

I stayed at a hotel last weekend, and was startled to be offered a smoking room.

It's considered place of residence, so it's allowed.

If you employ staff to work around your home can you then not smoke there? Grim...?

The was a news story on the BBC once about some council or another instructing people not to smoke in their own homes for a minimum period of two hours before any council workers or contractors paid a visit.

Excuse me whilst I fall about laughing.

If you employ staff to work around your home can you then not smoke there? Grim...?

Did the house actually belong to the council in that case? I'd be tempted to say "fair enough" if so..

But it's a place of employment for the cleaners. It seems a distinction that makes a nonsense of the rest of the ban. It's not like it's any harder to go outside in a hotel than it is in a bar. Is it just so people can have a cigarette in bed?

I agree it's a nonsense but thems the rules. The next step of course is banning people from ever smoking in their own home because they employ a cleaner....

There's got to be some division. That's it.

It just seems to me an odd place to draw the line. If you're allowing smoking in hotel rooms, why not allow smoking in other segregated places indoors, as long as staff aren't required to go in there while the smoking is occurring

Did the house actually belong to the council in that case?
And what was the visit for? Social work, looking after their children and tidying their houses up?
I'd be tempted to say "fair enough" if so..

It just seems to me an odd place to draw the line. If you're allowing smoking in hotel rooms, why not allow smoking in other segregated places indoors, as long as staff aren't required to go in there while the smoking is occurring? Suitable venting/extraction is assumed.

Because the hotel thing is an accident of the residence clause, not a specific clause in itself.

which of course meant lazy gits under council contacts couldn't be bothered to do loads of jobs.

Then that's badly thought through legislation. I want consistancy, damnit.

The sooner shops are open for a full working day on Sunday, the better. This religious bullshit hangover bollocks is taking far too long to be overturned. It's better than my young'un days when NOTHING was open at all, but I want more.

It's not just religion. The fact that people wouldn't see their families is involved, too.

Or, get this, Sunday!

So on Sunday they have less shifts than they would if they worked all day.

It's not just religion. The fact that people wouldn't see their families is involved, too.

The law already guarantees time off every week.

But Mum doesn't have to do a Sunday shift, because Spotty Dave will do it for half the price.

No he won't, due to the age discrimination laws.

I see an awful lot of middle aged women working behind the checkouts at the supermarkets, even on weekends.

But of course Dad working in an office gets time off on Saturday and Sunday, and Mum working in Tescos gets time off on Monday and Thursday (say) because she has to do a Sunday shift. Result = not seeing their family.

But of course Dad working in an office gets time off on Saturday and Sunday, and Mum working in Tescos gets time off on Monday and Thursday (say) because she has to do a Sunday shift. Result = not seeing their family.

And of course it really helps these people if they can shop at non-normal times too.

I expressed a theory about this to my gf ... that everything, and I mean everything, will be open 24 hours .

Due to population growth, eventually there will be so many people that there physically wont be enough space to accommodate them during current 'peak' times,

and so the world would have to shift to two 12 hour systems where one half gets up, works, and shops, and then goes and stays at home while the other half get up and do the same. You heard it here first.

crumblies, who are presumably desperate to pretend they still have a place in the world,

I want 24 hour shops all day every day, for convenience.